Teen Slain During Robbery, Police Say
Arraignments Planned Jan. 22
Last updated Friday, January 5, 2007 9:46 PM CST in News
By Robin Mero
The Morning News
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BENTONVILLE -- Derrick Jefferson, 17, of Centerton was ordered out of a car and shot in the head so two men could have the money in his pocket, while two girls cried and watched from the back seat, Prosecutor Van Stone said Friday.
Two men are being held without bond in connection with the early-morning Dec. 30 shooting death in north Springdale. One is a legal immigrant, in the United States on a work permit, and the other officials believe is in the country illegally.
Erickson Dimas-Martinez, 21, is being held on a capital murder charge and Uris Galdamez Magana, 20, on an accomplice to capital murder charge. They appeared Friday morning before Benton County Circuit Judge David Clinger.
Stone successfully argued Dimas-Martinez be held without bond because he allegedly shot Jefferson during an aggravated robbery. Magana wasn't granted bond because of his apparent illegal status.
Prosecutors released a probable-cause affidavit by the Benton County Sheriff's Office Friday afternoon detailing interviews with a friend of Jefferson and two girls, each younger than 18, who met Jefferson and invited him to a party the night before he died.
Jefferson's body was found by a passerby about 8:40 a.m. Dec. 30 in the driveway of a home at 4265 N. 40th St. in southcentral Benton County just outside Springdale.
The last evening of Jefferson's life began with a visit to a Fayetteville strip club with friends, according to the affidavit. Jefferson wore a white cloth hat with a short brim.
Jefferson and a friend, Wilfredo Cortez, then went to Rio Bravo restaurant in Springdale, but it was closed. They met two girls in the parking lot.
"Where's the party tonight?" Jefferson asked the girls, who invited them to a party at a duplex in east Springdale. The girls had been at the party earlier with Magana, whom they knew as "Jason." Dimas-Martinez was also there.
After about 30 minutes at the party, Cortez decided to leave because he felt a male was trying to intimidate him. He told police he left about 1:30 a.m. Jefferson wanted to stay and began asking others to give him a ride home later. He offered gas money.
Dimas-Martinez asked Jefferson how much, and Jefferson said he had about $30.
Jefferson, Dimas-Martinez, Magana and the two girls got in Dimas-Martinez's red, four-door Honda.
Dimas-Martinez told Jefferson to drive and climbed in the front passenger seat. He directed Jefferson to a Springdale home where he could "get some weed," the affidavit states. The others waited in the car, but Dimas-Martinez came back out shortly and said he couldn't get any there.
They briefly drove on Interstate 540, then took a Springdale exit and stopped in the driveway of the North 40th Street home.
Jefferson turned the car off. Dimas-Martinez and Magana got out, went to the front of the car and spoke for a minute or two. Dimas-Martinez approached the driver's side and asked everyone in the car if they had cell phones. They didn't. He pulled out a handgun, pointed it in Jefferson's face and ordered Jefferson out of the car, the affidavit states.
"What's going on?" Jefferson asked. Magana had a knife in his hand, the girls told police.
Dimas-Martinez ordered Jefferson to remove his coat and shirt and give him the money. He took Jefferson's hat.
One of the girls got out of the car, crying, and Magana pointed the knife and told her to shut up and get back in the car, the affidavit states.
"Why are you doing this to me?" Jefferson asked. "I thought we were cool. You are just going to leave me out here?" He walked toward Dimas-Martinez, who turned and shot him in the head, the affidavit states.
Magana drove the car back to the party while Dimas-Martinez counted the money taken from Jefferson. He threw $10 at the girls and told them to keep quiet, the affidavit states. Magana then took the girls to his place nearby in Springdale. They went in his bedroom. He took out a handgun, removed its clip and emptied it. He wiped the gun, the clip and bullets with his sweatshirt.
The next morning, he drove the girls home.
On New Year's Day, police searched the duplex where the party was held. They found Jefferson's hat lying on top of a washing machine. They learned the identity of the girls Jan. 3 and interviewed them under prosecutor's subpoena. Police didn't identify the girls in the affidavit.
One of the girls told police she didn't think Magana wanted Jefferson to be shot.
Police haven't found the murder weapon, but located a .38 shell casing from the driveway where Jefferson's body was found.
They arrested Dimas-Martinez Jan. 4 at a Springdale residence, where he was hiding in a closet. He denied meeting Jefferson and claimed he left the party about 11 p.m. and slept until 10 a.m.
Dimas-Martinez is in the United States on a worker's permit valid until July 2007. He has been in Springdale for five months and works for a poultry company.
He previously lived three years in California, where he was convicted of taking a vehicle without owner's consent, a misdemeanor, and driving under the influence.
He did not use an interpreter during Friday's bond hearing, but one will be made available for a Jan. 22 arraignment. Public Defender Jay Saxton was appointed to represent him. Saxton did not object to his client being held without bond.
Magana was arrested on an Immigration and Customs Enforcement hold. Police didn't explain when this took place, but said it was before they learned the girls' identities. He gave a false name but later gave a statement similar to that of the girls.
He and Dimas-Martinez were drunk Dec. 30, he said. He denied wielding a knife but said he was holding a screwdriver when he told the girls to get back in the car before the shooting. He admitted cleaning the gun, and said two unknown men came by his residence later and retrieved it. They were driving Dimas-Martinez's car, he said.
Magana has no known criminal history, but police don't yet know his work status or ties to the community. He used an interpreter in court Friday. Marianne Hudson with the conflicts office of the Arkansas Public Defender Commission was appointed to represent him.
Hudson disagreed Magana aided or abetted in the shooting. The affidavit claims Dimas-Martinez forced the victim to drive the car that night, then stole the money and shot Jefferson, she said -- and Magana cooperated with officers.
Clinger agreed there may be mitigating factors in Magana's case. "And perhaps legal defenses -- but there is sufficient evidence to hold him," he said.
The judge accepted defense attorneys' request that certain portions of probable-cause affidavits be blacked out before being distributed to reporters. Prosecutor Van Stone removed most information on the fourth of six pages before releasing them.
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Chefgun wrote on Jan 6, 2007 7:17 AM:
" Here we go again!!, More of our latin friends from good old California here to better themselves! "
RepubliCats wrote on Jan 6, 2007 7:20 AM:
" Thanks for allowing all the hard working immigrants to take over the USA. "
Jerry Hawkins wrote on Jan 6, 2007 7:24 AM:
" The illegals freely running around committing crime are thug punk tha need to be taken out back and fed to the hogs. "
Education? wrote on Jan 6, 2007 7:24 AM:
" Poor millions of dollars into education so you can flood the labor market with these immigrants to lower our wages and take our jobs. Good work politicians, vote yourselves another pay raise. "
FED UP wrote on Jan 6, 2007 7:36 AM:
" Why don't we just open the border and invite them all to come.Looks like our politicians will end up giving them amnesty anyway.
When are the citizens of this country going to say enough is enough! "
To Jerry wrote on Jan 6, 2007 8:11 AM:
" Given the opportunity, or cause, I wouldn't waste any time with them at all. They would be fertilizer in less than 60 seconds. All I need is a good legal reason... "
So Sad wrote on Jan 6, 2007 8:23 AM:
" So sorry to the Family that will go through so much in the coming years ahead. Just be strong and have the power to not let hate over come you. Rise above what these 2 have done to your son. Try not to bring yourself to their level of hate they had because it is not worth it. It will only hurt more. Loosing a son in such a violent way will eat you up. Try to take the pain and anger you have an educate American people and teenagers in the WHY and How. Best of Luck to you in the coming months and the long road you have in the court room. Stay Strong and May peace be with you. "
Bentonville Citizen wrote on Jan 6, 2007 9:18 AM:
" Yet another case where some will claim they were just "Poor immigrants" here for a better life...,to do the jobs most Americans won't do, you know jobs like robbery and murder.
How many times must this happen before we stop being politically correct about the immigration issue? "
It's too late wrote on Jan 6, 2007 9:29 AM:
" It's too late to save our city, our region or our country. There are an ESTIMATED 20 million illegals in our country as we speak. Do you realize that number is many times the size of our ENTIRE military and police officers COMBINED ? If every soldier and cop could round up 1 illegal each... we still wouldn't clean them all out. Face it folks, the party's over. Washington voted to build a wall to keep them out but W didn't put any funding in his budget to build it. It really wouldn't matter much because the invading army is already here. There is no hope of saving this great nation. We can only watch this cancer spread. The real devastation will come 20-30 years from now when these anchor babies mature to voting age. They'll then run for and hold office and by sheer numbers will overwhelm the political system. As legislators they'll allow open borders and flood our streets with their undocumented friends and relatives. You think your neighborhoods look bad now ? Just wait until 2030 . Don't believe me ? Have you seen Mexico's cities ? It's over and all that's left to do is watch the final chapters play out. Throughout my life I've spent a lot of time in church. It seemed there was always someone saying the end is near.... NOW I BELIEVE THEM ! May God save us all. "
Ashamed wrote on Jan 6, 2007 9:50 AM:
" I am shocked and appauled by the blatant racism that is being spouted, but then again, I shouldn't be because Rogers did not allow blacks to stay over night even in the 1970's. Crime happens, it doesn't matter if people are legal or not. How many of you who are complaining have Hispanics as laborers for you, working your garden, lawn, roof, or cooking your meals. Personally, I have found the family and work ethic of my hispanic friend far above that of my white friends. I am sorry for the family, I am sorry that we still have people hunting drugs, I am sorry that we have people who hate because of someone's nationality. I am sorry for you. "
Dear Ashamed wrote on Jan 6, 2007 10:06 AM:
" It's not a race issue ............. It's a culture issue ! As for the ONE hispanic friend you have, don't be preaching to me about racism if you only have 1, ONE non-caucasian friend. It's a culture issue and ONLY a culture issue. Just like inner city drug culture. Just like gang violence in the barrios . Just like mob violence in Chicago in the 30's .... it's a CULTURE ! Most of us do not appreciate the CULTURE that this group of ILLEGAL immigrants are bringing into our communities. "
Logbldr wrote on Jan 6, 2007 10:08 AM:
" What is it going to take for the "Knowledgeable PUBLIC" to demand that those Money-grubbing, vote-seeking, Corrupt, Career Politicians who continue to push for allowing these "Illegals" and so-called "Legals with Work Permits" into our country, share the Same Prison Cells with their favorite "Newfound Constituents". They Definitely Deserve One Another. "
To Jessica wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:04 AM:
" It sounds like you know a lot about the Benton County inmate population...First hand experience?
And by the way, since you don't think illegal immigration affects our community you must believe that they have a right to use our tax dollars. Please tell me you have a job and pay taxes... "
Julio wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:28 AM:
" This really comes down to people taking responsibility for their actions. It doesn't matter if you're purple,brown, black or white...if you're from Africa, Mexico or Mars.. The bottom line is if a crime has been committed then justice needs to be had!!! We need to go back to the days of an eye for an eye. These punks, drug dealers and losers need to be dealt with! We as a community need to pull together to make our city, county and country safer for our kids. Everyone likes to pass blame and blame the public offices when if they would do their part and not tolerate such behavior this could come to a halt. For many years this country has had and will have immigrants come to this country, heck most of us have ancestors that migrated here from another country. The bottom line is that we need to unite as ONE and not put up with these low life losers committing these crimes in OUR back yard!!!! As a former Marine and Police Officer I have and will continue to do my share to keep scum like this out of our community! "
Tspud wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:37 AM:
" Jessica, can you tell me of a worse crime
than what this waste of skin did? Tell me of a crime committted by a white that is worse. You spout off but it's clear you don't think. "
Voice of Reason wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:48 AM:
" Thanks to Jessica and Ashamed for posting some reasonable comments. Once again this is not a race issue, and I would wish that people would stop making it into one. A violent crime was committed, but is seems that that fact is going to get diluted since everyone seems to be saying "see here we go again-those d*** Hispanics". I am surprised that the racists that are posting here have not said things like this black kid got what he deserved, they seem to like to blame the victim around here. "
observer wrote on Jan 6, 2007 1:19 PM:
" did somebody realized, he was a 17 year old kid. out of home at 1:30 p.m whit bad companies? tell me whit whom you are and i tell you who you are.
i know this a horrible crime, but it could be commited against him or the girl that were whit them and the killer could be hispanic, black white or whatever, meanwhile our kids are in the streets, looking for weed and partys, this will happen again.
we are puting our kids like a easy prey. "
to observer wrote on Jan 6, 2007 1:44 PM:
" You are completely correct. And to no offense to the parents, but to our society today. 17 year olds are just children. They still need authority to help them make good decisions. Sometimes they make bad decisions, and sadly this poor child paid for his with his life. This is wrong, murdered for 30 bucks, his hat and his freaking shirt. To me this isnt a race issue, HOWEVER. These men, one on a work permit the other an illegal immigrant, regardless of their race they are not citizens and will most likely be deported. I dont know the laws, but I PRAY TO GOD justice is served before any chance of deportation. And to the families of this poor child, may God be with you all. You are certainly in my prayers "
to Tspud wrote on Jan 6, 2007 1:58 PM:
" tspud i can tell you of a worst crime commited by a group of caucasian terrorist Timothy Mcveight now that's a waste of skin, in my oppinion his up there with alqaida that is one of the sorriest trailer trash caucasian, well to the moment atleas, also those caucasian terrorist in alabama that used to bomb churches, with little black girls, man thats the same hate going on in the middle east right now and those waste of skin are right there with alqaida. do you condone those actions or can you agree with me that those people were a waste of skin can you, or do you condone those terrorist actions "
to tspud wrote on Jan 6, 2007 2:03 PM:
" like i said it before i hate it when someone commits any crime against humanity, don't matter what status they are, but the thing that i find odd is when a caucasian commits a seriouse crime no one comments, like a week a go a jealouse husband finds his wife with someone and kills them, murder suicide front page, no one says anything about the drugged up meth using redneck responsible. they just turn the other cheek "
To JULIO & OBSERVER... wrote on Jan 6, 2007 2:24 PM:
" Julio, the ex-marine, makes alot of sence as well as Observer. First of all and before getting into racial comments, you should all PRAY for Derrick's family and may OUR CREATOR have him by his Side. This country is a beutyfull country no doubt about it and the laws may not be perfect but are better than other countrys, im a born U.S. Citizen of Hispanic decent and proud of it, i thank God that my parents came to the U.S. to give a better life to my brothers and me, and yes my DAD came here illegaly back in the 70s to work hard and honestly, and i know alot of who are still coming into the U.S. do the same unfortunally we do get the bad one but you don't cut down the entire tree just for some bad apples. As for those dumb idots who decided to take a young man's life for $30 bucks they deserve to get whats coming to them and we should tell our kids about the bad people out there but dont teach them that it has anything to do with race or way they come from, Like JULIO said we should all unite as a community agaisnt criminals illegal or not. PRAY FOR THE FAMILY WHO ARE IN PAIN FOR THE LOST OF THEIR SON, GOD BE WITH THEM. "
Tspud wrote on Jan 6, 2007 2:26 PM:
" Murder is murder, there is now worse crime.
I have said over and over that you can not condone bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior. No matter how you slice it, the fact remains that they are here ILLEGALLY and we all pay for there multiple crimes. How's this for todays news: A 25-year-old illegal immigrant jumped bail Friday when he failed to show up to face accusations he molested a 12-year-old girl on several occasions last year.
Paulo Sheispan-Landero remained at large late Friday, having been released from custody Tuesday after posting $5,000 bail. Sheispan-Landero failed to appear for a hearing on a driving without a license charge. Sheispan-Landero had once been deported for other criminal acts and returned to the area within a week.
This is what most want stopped. I would like to see any law breaking ILLEGAL sent back after fingerprinted and DNA sampled. This could be used in future cases when they come back and break the laws again as so many do. "
YOU ARE ALL BIG TALKERS!!! wrote on Jan 6, 2007 2:45 PM:
" ISTEAD OF POINTING FINGERS AS OF WHICH RACE IS WORSE. WHY DON'T YOU ALL FIND OUT A WAY TO HELP THE VICTIM'S FAMILY FROM WHAT I HEARD THEY DONT COUNT WITH ALOT OF MONEY AND THEY ARE STROGGLING FOR THE THEIR SON'S FUNERAL LETS HELP THEM AND PRAY FOR THEM, OR WAIT, DON'T TELL ME YOU ONLY WHAT TO TALK ABOUT RACISM MMMMM I WONDER, WELL IF YOU HAVE A KIND HEART AND WANT TO HELP GET INTOUCH WITH THE BENTON COUNTY POLICE AND ASK HOW YOU GET HELP THE FAMILY, DONT JUST DO THE TALK DO THE WALK!!! "
Concerned Parent wrote on Jan 6, 2007 5:11 PM:
" These under aged teens should of been at home in bed. What have parents become today? Letting there kids run around all hours of the night. And the girls didn't go home until the next morning??? Shameful in my opinion. God Bless the family of the young man who lost his life. "
joet wrote on Jan 6, 2007 5:29 PM:
" If you honestly believe Springdale and the surrounding areas are a better place compared to 1990 then your out of your mind. The people you can thank are the poultry business. You can't hide from the fact that the area is over-abundantly populated far as comparing averages from 1990 until now. Therefore, there is no gray matter in the issue it's either yes or no. The culture of the people in question has degraded and put this community in sad position, and made me move to Montana. People wake up regardless of the rest of the U. S. of A., this particular (Northwest)part of Arkansas is giong to hell in a hand-basket, and yet I still call it home. "
American Citizen wrote on Jan 6, 2007 5:48 PM:
" I think they should all be rounded up along with their anchor babies and shipped back where they came from.
This whole country has went to hell in a hand basket just because companies like Tyson want cheap labor,and our government won't inforce our laws because they're pandering to the big businesses in this country.
When are we as American Citizens going to say that's enough,and start inforcing the laws ourselves? "
kelly wrote on Jan 6, 2007 7:06 PM:
" damn i hope these imigrants get everything they deserve for killing my big brother...i miss him so much he didnt deserve this!!!!! "
to julio wrote on Jan 6, 2007 8:22 PM:
" i would assume that you are from hispanic descent. thank you for realizing what the problem is. most white people don't care what color you are, we only care what kind of person you are. my best friend is mexican and her husband is black, but i can't stand illegal people that come here and cause problems. does that make me racist? i don't think so. "
United We Can Stop This wrote on Jan 6, 2007 8:44 PM:
" We all need to unite and DEMAND from our national and local elected officials that illegals MUST GO. "
Chefgun wrote on Jan 6, 2007 8:48 PM:
" To the American public, You know what the Swiss say ?, A Armed society is a POLITE! society, Are they armed ? YES, every able bodied male over 21 is trained, and armed by their Goverment and issued a Rifle,( Select Fire fully automatic ) they keep at HOME FOR LIFE!. What is their CRIME RATE ? NILL!!, Does everyone get along well together ?, Talking with my friends who have lived there all their lives, They dont have robberies, rapes, murders, driveby shootings, Etc! Kind of like Rogers was back in the 1970s, PEACEFULL!!, You didnt worry about locking your doors, or takeing your Wife and Grandkids for a walk after dark. Just something to think about!, Oh and one other thing, one of our local Law Enforcements, I think Bentonville is giveing Ladies self defence classes, I think ALL of our Gals should attend them. Thank You for letting me voice my opinion.
God Bless The US. And our Troops. "
Bentonville Parent wrote on Jan 6, 2007 9:03 PM:
" "Here we go again?" whats up with that? This isn't about race! Yeah they were illegals and they deserve every thing that happens to them. You know, I don't understand how people can bring race into this. This was a horrible crime and it did not happen because they were illegal. It happened because they were bad people. If we wouldn't work so hard at trying to get all illegals out of Arkansas and focus on getting the scum out then we All would get better sleep at night. Also, parents, why are these kids out All night. These young girls? Where the hell are the parents!!! I pray for the family of this young man, may god be with you and comfort you. "
Greg wrote on Jan 6, 2007 9:57 PM:
" What percentage of the murders in the last 2 years in northwest arkansas been commited by hispanics? Does anyone have an exact number? This is what happens when you are raised with no moral values. They see their parents bleeding the government for all it is worth. So they assume they can do the same. "
Jessica's correct... wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:13 PM:
" ...statement about Whites being the majority of criminal offenders has sure gotten people to proudly spew their ignorance!
No, Jessica does not need "first hand experience" about the Benton County inmate population & race, because DETAILS ABOUT THE CURRENT BENTON COUNTY INMATE POPULATION CAN BE VIEWED AT: www.co.benton.ar.us/Sheriff/Inmate.html
If one is able to read, one can see what race proves to be dominant.(Hint: W=White, B=Black, H=Hispanic) "
Self-righteous people! wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:24 PM:
" So quick to direct blame, persecution and hatred to another race when in fact, it is the rock-smoking white man who is destroying our community with meth. (Let me know when a Mexican meth lab gets busted. Ha!)
"
just thinking wrote on Jan 6, 2007 11:27 PM:
" We are at WAR, Why don't we empty our jails and send them where our boys are fighting for our freedom and their life? I am talking Mexican, American,Afro American. That is something they already know how to do!
Save the tax payers the upkeep and give the criminals something to do. "
Hello!!!!! wrote on Jan 7, 2007 1:21 AM:
" I really like to check all this coments no matter who writted! Because that show me how this news paper want to make us fight for any matter, can be for writting in a fence or a murder, really good deal make a good web page for all the spots they can sell, showing to all the business onwers how many people check they web site!!!! I dont care where we came from! We like to fight with anybody just find the reason you need and fight!!!! And by the way if you dont know the inmigration or the IRS laws, please, dont talk about coming to this country legal or if the people pay taxes.... The most important thing is we are 39,000,000 and every day we are more!!!! even if you dont like it we got here first, your history is 300 years ours is more that 500, so if you dont know what are you talking! Please have a sit and shut your !!! "
To All Observers wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:10 AM:
" I agree with jessica and julio. Oh, and those guys that this wont get away with just a slap on the wrist and get deported. They will do their time first before they get deported(and not be able to come back). So that goes to show,that they are getting rid of all the BAD immigrants AFTER being punished(and i dont mean just hispanics). To you racist people out there,even if they got rid of all the illegals there will still be alot of hispanics left and you wont be able to do anything about it so HA! "
Question wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:31 AM:
" How many racists people are eating in mexican restrauants? I know of 1 poster that is a racist and was seen at Maria's Mexican Rest.the other evening. HMMM.
Have you ever looked around when you go in a mexican rest.? 99.9% of the customers are always white. HMMM.
Stop supporting the hispanics! If you continue to eat in there restraunts, shop in their stores, and use them to mow your yard then the hispanic community will continue to grow and we'll all pay for it in the end!! The hell with hispanics. STOP SUPPORTING THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rogers is becoming "Little Mexico". Before to long they are going to own Rogers!!!!! "
Ask me I know wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:30 AM:
" The resturaunts are just fronts for illegal activity. "
Just a thought: wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:39 AM:
" PRISON LIFE MAY NOT BE ALL THAT BAD????? It takes all types:
Arkansas - A series of arrests involving drugs, sex and the abuse of a state inmate program shocked the small town of Lonoke on Monday, as the police chief, his wife, the mayor and two bail bondsmen were taken into custody.
Police Chief Jay Campbell and the two bail bondsmen, Bobby Cox and Larry Norwood, were arrested on allegations that include conspiring to manufacture methamphetamine, while the chief's wife, Kelly Harrison Campbell, was arrested and faces allegations of residential burglary, providing state inmates drugs and alcohol and taking two of them outside the city jail to have sex, authorities said. "
Ana wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:07 AM:
" its messed up that some of the people that have posted comments on this page have the nerve to go off on immigrants. its seems to me that you all have missed the point. My friend is dead because some b*tch had the nerve to shoot him. i dont care if they were Black, White, Mexican, Asian, Orange Blue or any other color of the rainbow. They took someones life and all some of you can talk about is how they were immigrants. Who gives a sh*t if they are! He didnt deserve to be killed over 30 dollars and a da*n coat! I pray to God that they get the death penalty. "
A HISPANIC wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:42 AM:
" AFTER READING ALL THIS COMMENTS,I HAVE COME TO REALIZE HOW IGNORANT WE ARE GETTING AS HUMAN BEINGS AND HOW WE ARE HEADING TO SELF DESTRUCTION.I AGREE THAT ALL PEOPLE WHO COMMIT CRIMES SHOULD BE PUNISHED REGARDLESS OF THEIR NATIONALITY OR LEGAL STATUS.TO ALL MY LATINO BROTHERS OUT THERE..RESPECT OUR COUNTRY'S LAWS.TO MY WHITE FRIENDS GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT BEFORE YOU START JUDGING. "
Tspud wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:59 AM:
" Some of the spelling here is terrible.
Read todays news in this paper:
http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2007/01/07/news/010707trlowesarrest.txt
"
DeputySheriff wrote on Jan 7, 2007 12:30 PM:
" As a Law Enforcement officer in NWA, I can attest to all the crimes committed by people, whether they be white, brown, black or yellow. This is not an issue of race people, please beleive me, it is not. It is an issue of generations. The younger generation of kids today do not care for their life, much less yours. They will kill you for $3 as fast as they will for $3 million. Whether they are white, black or brown, it is about the youth of today. I am old enough to remember when you respected your elders and those who deserved respect were respectful themselves. The kids today have no good role models to follow. They are all influenced by actors, musicians and video games. Trust me, I am also young enough to have been influenced by some myself before waking up. Illegals are a problem, but they are not the cause of the downfall of society. Society is the cause for the downfall. Say your prayers and support your Law Enforcement and Military. They will be defending you in the streets shortly. "
FAIRNESSPLEASE wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:00 PM:
" Much of the Main stream media want us to welcome the millions of people who chose to ignore our laws and immigrated illegally to the US - sorry but I don't agree and I am a lifelong Democrat and lean towards Liberal. It is ludicrous to reward anyone for breaking the law and illegal immigrants have done just that. To blame employers is taking the responsibility off of adults who made their own choices.
If enough people steal cars would you think that car theft should be legalized?
Fair is fair and illegal isn't fair! "
Angel wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:29 PM:
" Who cares who these people were, what they did is wrong and you all are getting off of the subject. I just hope this family who lost their loved one doesn't read all of this bullcrap everyone is writing! Because by talking about the people who did it your just giving them more attention when really the attention should be on Derrick's family! Racism isn't going to help Derrick's family out! I am sure Derrick had friends of many races and would be dissapointed of how everyone is handling this! I am sure all Derrick's family wants is justice for their son! Not some war you people are making this out to be! "
Just a thought: wrote on Jan 7, 2007 2:58 PM:
" O.J. Did! He won too! So be very aware of what you say about racism....because you can bet the lawyer or the prosecutor will play that card. Best of luck Derrick's Family. "
Sorrow wrote on Jan 7, 2007 3:52 PM:
" A Fatal Brew: Drugs, Alcohol, car, past midnight, ride with strangers, gun, knife, leave your friend behind (who warned about "threatening"), announce you have money, get in a car with no license plate (stolen?), out of town, no idea where you are, ask your attackers why they aren't cool.......Hard to believe this sweet young teen survived in a bad neighborhood in LA!!!! So sorry for your loss "
soweto wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:31 PM:
" HOW I WISH HUMAN BEINGS WILL THINK TWICE IN ALL THEIR ACTIONS ,HOW COULD YOU JUST KILL A SOUL LIKE YOU KILLING SOME KIND OF INSECTS ,GOSHHHHHHHHHH SO SICKNING .LET ME ADDRESS MOST, WHO MIGHT STILL BE CONSIDERING KILLING ANOTHER SOUL, THAT THERE IS PUNISHMENT FOR ALL THESE ,THERE IS WHAT THEY CALL HELL FIRE WHICH AWAITS ALL EVIL SOUL,
THIS WORLD IN GENERAL NEEDS SERIOUS PRAYERS .PLS ALL READERS PLS FOR AMERICA PRAY FOR THE WORLD FOR GOD"S LOVE TO REIGN IN OUR HEART.
"
soweto wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:37 PM:
" I JUST WISH TO COMMENT ON THAT FROM WHAT SELF RIGHTEOUS IS WRITING ABOUT SHOWS ,THAT HE CAN ALSO KILL ,BECAUSE THIS ISSUE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MEXICAN ,OR INDIANS OR AFRO AMERICA OR WHAT EVER THE WAY YOU CALL IT .I GUESS EVIL MIND BRINGS OUT ROTTEN THOUGHTS IF I WERE THE POLICE I MIGHT WANT TO CHECK THAT GUYS RECORD . "
THEO wrote on Jan 7, 2007 6:56 PM:
" "Ok, I think people skiped way past the point on what happened to Derrick... This is not an immigrant issue, it was careless human beings that had no self respect and no respect for other, a white person could have done the same and a black person could have comitted the crime also. Derrick was just to kind to others. I dont care what others are talking about but you must not know how it feels to lose a bestfriend, think about his mom Ruth and his friends and immediate family, eveyone is to busy talking about mexicans and how they need to go back, screw that, what about his family? Ruth I love you and stay strong. I hope they get what they deserve. And to Derrick I'll see u when i get there!" "
Cortes Freed Me wrote on Jan 7, 2007 7:02 PM:
" Don't fool yourselves. This was an illegal crime committed by illegal aliens. Had the government taken steps to keep these third world trash at bay, it wouldn't have happened. Open your eyes, this countries values and lifestyle are under attack by those from the south of our border. Quit being such fools, it isn't a race issue, it's a fight to survive. Drive through Springdale some times (aka Little Mexico). How many businesses do you see with Spanish signs? It's time to wake up America. "
Simone wrote on Jan 7, 2007 7:47 PM:
" NEWSFLASH FROM CALIFORNIA-For all of you bleeding hearts that think illegals and their sympathizers are great folks, I urge to Google Maywood, CA. This town has completely colonized by Hispanics, both legal and illegal. Even the American Post Office Flag has been removed and replaced by the Mexican rag. Our prison population is upwards of 60% illegal Hispanics in some areas and there are racial riots in our prisons between Blacks and Hispanics occurring as I write.
LA Blacks are being ethnically cleansed from their communities. These American Blacks are murdered, intimidated and terrorized on a daily basis and are leaving in droves.This will be coming your way soon. We are in the trenches here, as one of the border states.Don't kid yourselves into thinking all is well. We have been invaded without a shot. I suggest you educate yourselves on this. Illegal is not a race. People who call those of us Americans racists, because we want to keep our American culture intact, are merely ignorant as to the truth and cannot intellectually argue the true facts. It's starting to arrive in your state and you will be shocked as to what will eventually happen. Start standing up for America before it's too late. "
disappointed wrote on Jan 7, 2007 8:21 PM:
" I hate that race has gotten into the subject. The issue is about people being here illegally, be it the 40,000 illegal orientals, the 10-12 million hispanics or even some europeans. But, let me say this ref the race issue; how would you like to be a black man who works hard, plays by the rules, pays his taxes, raises his kids, fights our wars, etc.,(and yes such a man is the majority of the black men) and because of the unrestrained immigration from the south and the illegal alien invasion has woke up outnumbered in his own country and soon to go the way of the Native American Indian in political clout? That is a shame. And then to be that black man, or his family, and to lose your son to a person who shouldnt have even been here, that is a travesty! "
To Jessica Dunce and pals wrote on Jan 7, 2007 9:59 PM:
" "Fun Google Project"
Oh here is something simple you can do. google "most wanted" websites from around the country. Now view the mug shots of the perps and then look at the information on each criminal. There will be a spot with the "race/ethnicity" indicated. Now see if the "race/ethnicity" matches up with the person in the photograph. The answer might suprise you.
Here, I'll make it eay for you. Below is the Texas most Wanted. Now, 9 out of 10 are listed as "white males". The mug shots however, paint a different picture. [Note: Not all states participate in this form of corruption.] The question is, why? I know. do you?
www.txdps.state.tx.us/wanted/
"
Teenager wrote on Jan 7, 2007 11:22 PM:
" It is kinda funny reading all these stupid comments that people have wrote. Race is not the issue here!!! Yes the two men that killed this INNOCENT boy was hispanic but it could have been anyone of any race. Don't get me wrong but i dont agree on illegal immigrants should be in the United States but we all need to take a step back and worry about the family of derrick. Many people on here comment about how derrick shouldn't have been out so late and should have been at home.. well as a teenager that is only a year older then derrick.. many child lie to there partents about spending the night at a friends house and are really staying out late and partying... kids are going to do this.. and you cant stop them unless you keep them locked in there room and not let them do anything. This terrible situation could HAPPEN to ANYONE.. even me or your child. This world has gotten out of control and you cant always stop these things from happening. My heart goes out to derricks family and i know that they will stay strong. The family is kinda having a hard time so if there is any generous people that would like to help; there is an account at all regions banks that you can make donations to. "
We Need God wrote on Jan 8, 2007 8:09 AM:
" Dear God,
Thank you for this day and all you have given us. Thank you for your son. I pray for relief for the family of this child. Please send them help as it is needed. I pray for our country, that it is restored. I pray for the safety and health of my children. In Jesus name, AMEN. "
Jerry Hawkins wrote on Jan 8, 2007 9:08 AM:
" OK OK If this is not about race but murder.Why is it a white man could do this and be charged with a hate crime. Seems one sided to me.Minorities are always the victims and whitey is always da bad man.
"
The United Corporations Of America wrote on Jan 8, 2007 9:35 AM:
" It doesn't matter what you think. We want cheap labor to keep our costs down, because our profits are more important than your lives. It's so much better for us when we don't have to pay a decent wage, and provide health care. Remember, "No Disposable Worker Is Illegal". "
blame yourselves wrote on Jan 8, 2007 2:59 PM:
" Reminds me when the Italian immigrants came over an started taking over the streets with their Mafia. Came to a new land and went right to work with their bloody ways....
Come on people, immigrants have just as much right to be here, as we do. After all, we all came from somewhere else. As far as illegal immigrants commiting crimes, they get more attention than a citizen commiting a crime, because the political and proraganda machine demands it. "
reader wrote on Jan 8, 2007 3:04 PM:
" It is very sad that a 17 yr old boy had to die for $30 - what is even more sad is that you can't trust people anymore - whatever happened to the days where you could trust to pick up someone from the side of the road who was having car trouble without the fear of being robbed for a couple of dollars you might have in your wallet.
Its a shame that we all can't live in peace and treat one another the way we would like to be treated with respect and honesty. I don't blame the illegal aliens for wanting to come over and make a better life for themself and their families but I think that they shouldn't get special treatment - they should be treated in the same regard as the legal residents of NWA are - pay the same taxes - pay for health care the same as we do - they shouldn't come here expecting a free handout. We give them all these "free" benefits and to show their gratitude they steal from us and they kill our kids. I tell you I'm feeling the love here.
"
Tspud wrote on Jan 8, 2007 4:04 PM:
" Blame yourselves, ILLEGALS do not have the right to be here. That's why they are called ILLEGAL. As for getting more attention, that may be true but we are the ones paying the tab for their crimes and social costs. "
i wonder wrote on Jan 8, 2007 5:18 PM:
" i wonder were can an undocumented illegal be able to get a gun, maybe thats were the problem is, is it that easy to get a gun that an illegal can get one, maybe you guys should start going after the guys supplying this teens who play to much Grand Theft Auto video game, maybe it was that machine gun troddling caucasian never know or your local NRA club. "
disappointed wrote on Jan 8, 2007 5:37 PM:
" when an illegal is located, arrested, etc, the last employer of the person needs to be charged with hiring them and/or sued by the victim's family. "
dialking wrote on Jan 9, 2007 12:54 AM:
" Two bad there wasnt a law two strikes and your out, I mean come on, isnt it obvious by now, if you have more than one offense on your record, then it is likely there will be more and more and more Funny, I don't have any strikes. Go figure. "
mother of 3 wrote on Jan 9, 2007 11:51 AM:
" I agree with the deputy sheriff, it's the way the younger generations are being brought up. We as parents need to raise our kids better. It don't matter what race u are. May GOD be with all of u!!! Please Keep Northwest Arkansas safe for our kids! They are our future! "
trippicat wrote on Jan 9, 2007 2:29 PM:
" It is not a race issue. Illegal vs legal is the catch phrase. As far as when Americans are going to wake up, it better be soon or the party's over. More like 35 million illegals will get amnesty, then they bring in the rest of their families, that could take the numbers up to 80 million, to invade our schools, social services, health care facilities. In less that 3 yrs this great country will become a 3rd world nation. I think its time we played Americans and Hispanics , in case you don't catch it, its an old play on cowboys and indians, and we know what happened there. "
Tspud wrote on Jan 9, 2007 2:38 PM:
" to trippicat, if we would put a bounty on illegals that we know are committing crimes it would be money well spent. Just think how much it would save in taxes going to support the social or incarceration costs. Our politician would rather turn a blind eye and act like nothing is wrong. "
Rockey Delgadillo wrote on Jan 9, 2007 4:33 PM:
" Good Day,
Killers come in all colors, races,genders.....OJ is black, Scott Peterson is white, Remember the Uni-bomber?
These 2 Foolios are latino. So what?
Latinos are hard working people...
Proud People.....Good People
Drugs use and lack of education, lack of Parents not caring what thier kids do is the reason for this sad ending of a young human life. Here in Los Angeles we also have murders, crimes happening day in, day out...committed by all.....
I should know...I prosecute them. What we need is Education, Good Parents, Good
Family Values......Good Communities..Good Places of Worship...
God's love and peace in our lifes,Respect for all humans, no matter ones color, race, gender,age.. etc.etc.
My Father came to this Great Country as a Bracero in the 1940's
He was the best man I ever knew........
Hopefully I have made him proud of me...
My Sincere Prayers go out to the Family members.My Best to you in Bentonville..
God Bless.....
Rocky Delgadillo
LA City D.A. "
disappointed wrote on Jan 9, 2007 6:42 PM:
" Mr Rockey, i agree that evil comes in all colors but what of the issue concerning illegal aliens and the great number of them that are criminals? it is a fact that those involved in this incident should not have been here. i contend that were they not here then the criminal behavior would not have happened. what say ye counselor? now, as for is there good in all colors? yes, as evidenced by you and your life, but that is not the real issue. the issue is we as a nation of laws should enforce them and not look the other way when outsider barge into our country. "
Ramon wrote on Jan 9, 2007 7:12 PM:
" this boy were not from mexico did u not now the el salvador is another country so stop bleiming the mexican.why when something happend and it comitid by a american u guys don't have nothing to say about it. I think that the reason that illega alien are here is because u guys are to lazy to get off the sofa and start doing the hard work. like contruction ?????????????????????? "
disappointed wrote on Jan 9, 2007 10:12 PM:
" I will give you an answer Ramon. The reason we say nothing when a black man or a white man commits a crime is because they are legal citizens of this country. We will deal with the crime per our laws. We do not like illegals of any color, race, culture being here because they are illegal. If they had not been here the crime would not have happened. Besides, when the paper states the person is an illegal then it makes it very easy to know. With your reasoning I suppose we should just ignore our laws because the illegal is willing to work. I believe our country and its ways, laws, rules, cultures, etc, is more important than if the economy is doing well. An illegal is actually harming our society just by being here. The powerful/rich and the politicians justify letting illegals be here because they work. I say that is wrong. Again, the economy is not more important than the country. The economy is in place to serve the country, not the other way around. "
reason wrote on Jan 10, 2007 2:46 AM:
" Jessica, I tried twice before to tell you that your facts were wrong, but was deleted. I checked the co.benton.ar.us/Sheriff/inmate.htlm 118 Hispanics incarcerated. Rodriguez Adelio, Sando Carl Francisco, juajardo Joerge Esturdl, Martinez Xavier, Hernandez Estrado, Martinez Santiago, Porras Juan Carlos, were a few who were listed as white inmates. Check out for yourself. Since Hispanics are less than 10% of the population in Arkansas, they are dispropotionately represented in jail. "
To Tommy Trojan wrote on Jan 10, 2007 8:23 AM:
" Tommy Trojan,
If you are so much better, and more intelligent, than those of us in Arkansas, what are you doing reading the NWA newspaper? By the way, it's Razorbacks, or more importantly...HOGS! GO HOGS! Oh, and USC is so great they are about to lose their coach. Whatever. "
Concerned wrote on Jan 10, 2007 10:33 AM:
" Please give us the name of the bank so some of us can donate instead of shooting off of the fingers. Maybe some of us have hearts as soft as tofu for this young man's family "
to concerned wrote on Jan 10, 2007 11:12 AM:
" The bank that you can donate to is Regions bank.. any of them.. there is a special account for the family! "
Concerned wrote on Jan 10, 2007 12:42 PM:
" To Tspud, Jerry Hawkins and Chefgun the ones that have been very big worded and so self righteous. Put your money were your mouth is and go to the bank and donate some money. I know I will be doing so. Maybe you can do some good this time around! "
Tspud wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:07 PM:
" Here's one I gave to: Tennessee Highway Patrol Trooper Calvin Jenks. Jenks, 24, was shot during a traffic stop. Videotape retrieved state trooper's patrol car shows a 17-year-old suspect shooting him,
The teen, Alejandro Chevo Gouna, was arraigned Tuesday along with the second suspect in the shooting, Orlando Daniel Garcia, 19. Gouna is also known as Alejandro Guana.
http://www.jacksonsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070110/NEWS01/701100321/1002 "
BarbV wrote on Jan 10, 2007 5:12 PM:
" I note that the killer is in the US on a worker's permit, who while living in CA was convicted of taking a vehicle wi/o owner's consent [sounds like grand theft auto to me - but is only a misdomeanor in CA?] and of DUI. What kind of background check is done on these "legal" workers? Shouldn't his previous brushes with the law invalidated his legal work permit? How much latitude is given to these "legal" workers?
In response to Jessica [1/6/07 10:26am] Whatever the percent of each race in Benton County jail, take a look at the Los Angeles county jail and most are hispanic. Check out the LA Most Wanted list www.lapdonline.org/most_wanted The names: Akopyan, Bonilla, Campos, Contreras, Montarrez, Nistal-Cesar, Perez, Reyes, Vargas, Villa. This is your future if you continue to race-bait the issue of illegal in-migration. Illegal in-migration affects ALL communities where it is allowed to flourish. It is already affecty your schools, not to mention the wages and working conditions for blue collar workers. Jessica, you are either benefiting in some way from illegal in-migration or you are still in school and have not understanding of what happens to EVERYONE when we encourage the anarchy of "we don't need no stink'n legal papers, issued by your stink'n nation" illegal aliens. "
disappointed wrote on Jan 10, 2007 5:41 PM:
" i know it sounds weird but i believe this situation of illegal immigration has been allowed to go on to benefit a few wealthy people. i say we give mexico 24 hours to decide if they want to join our union and live by our laws or we invade them- "from the Halls of Montezuma..." "
disappointed wrote on Jan 10, 2007 7:31 PM:
" to those who justify illegal immigration, please help me to understand something. if i concede, for the sake of conversation only, that i am a racist isolationist does that fact justify the unwanted swarming into this country illegally? does the fact that iam lazy and will not work hard justify others sneaking into a country that is not theirs? help me to understand why we should let this invasion to happen. thank you. for the record, i am not anti-immigrant. i believe we should streamline the process and speed it up after we secure the borders and begin to send those people back that should not be here. "
From Tommy Trojan wrote on Jan 10, 2007 9:28 PM:
" Howdie Again Hog Lovers,
The only reason I have read
this article AND the only REASON
is, I find the Great Citizens of NWA
very AMUSING!!!This is better than "COPS".....
I guess being in the fouth grade for 5 years for all those "Razorback" fans out there placed your Great State ahead of the State of Mississippi in literacy....
not by much thou.......You All(get It)
can always depend on WAL-FART for food & speed money..................
SO, how did you Hog fans
enjoy the butt-whopping 2 years in a row.......OUCH!!!!!!DOUBLE OUCH!!!!
By the way, I happen to be a
"Caucasian Republican American Citizen"
whose Grandparents on my Mother's side
being Mexican had thier land stolen over 150 years ago for nothing more than the
Gold this land provided
by "The Gringo" ...I am working on
my PHD in race relations......I need to
look no further.....Keep the comments
coming.............and hopefully, I did not lose anyone out there.......
Remember GOD is a Trojan......not a pig!
Fight on!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
Concerned wrote on Jan 11, 2007 5:22 AM:
" Oh, Tspud! Did I hit a tender nerve? I am not choosing anything for ya! But since you seemed so concerned about the immigration issue maybe you could help the family that has lost a family member. You rant and rave about everything else then do something about it. I will!! "
Concerned wrote on Jan 11, 2007 5:34 AM:
" To disappointed. A crime is a crime legal or illegal alien, anglo-saxon,marsallesse or whatever race the criminal happens to be. It does not alleviate the fact that a life has been taken and a family left moarning for their loved one. Justice must be served. The point is that a lot of prejudice is being outpoured here by these vile comments regarding a specific race. Just because we are brown, we are frowned on. Hispanics are condemned in this here neighborhood. With all of these comments being left behind by our fellow US Citizens that have only been raised to spew a lot of garbage. Illegals that commit a crime must me prosecuted and dealt with, yes. The ones that have a permit will eventually lose the right to be here, once they try to become a citizen they cannot have falonies on their records. It is not the fault of any race, it is the law that is not strict enough that lets all of the criminals walk away. Remember that!!!!! "
Tspud wrote on Jan 11, 2007 9:22 AM:
" These are not rants & raves. I at least put some coherent thought and facts in my posts, not just feel good guilt trip posts. I have done a lot about the issue. Again I say it's not up to you to decide what I put my time and effort into. My tender nerve has been hit too many times by ILLEGAL immigrants committing crimes.
If you give to the dead 24 year old just married state trooper, I'll give to the family of this teen. There are way too many good causes to give to them all and you are not a bad person if you can't give to all. "
Concerned wrote on Jan 11, 2007 9:38 AM:
" Tspud...you only comment about the illegal immigrants and you put all the blame on them. What about other people that committ the same crimes? I don't see you ranting and raving about them. You make it sound like the whole hispanic community is to blame and you blame the whole entire illegal population for every crime that is committed. You say that you are not racist, ok., would that make you prejudiced? What difference does it make? Does it sound coherent to sound like a skin head or that you might belong to a certain clan that we should not mention here because it is not politically correct but for you to sound like one of them, is it quite ok? Illegals are a problem yes, I don't disagree with you but to place a complete blame to all of the crimes committed by some of them does not mean that all of them are bad people. You make it sound like the whole entire hispanic population is a disgust to you. The criminals are the ones to blame not the illegals when will you understand those simple words? Some of the illegals are here for a better life but not all are scoundrels. "
To Ramone wrote on Jan 11, 2007 11:17 AM:
" HOW DARE YOU!!! Let me get this straight. YOU ILLEGALS, come to the United States to work because Americans are too lazy?? I'm offended (as are others I'm quite sure) that you feel your so-called "hard-working" brothers and sisters are justified in coming to this country illegally just to make a few bucks. But wait, when you make that American Dollar, you don't put it back into the economy that created it! No, you send it back to where you came from (without paying taxes on your earnings, mind you) and then "sneak" back home. Oh, and by the way, while you are illegally in the United States, you might as well get fed for free (Link card), go see the doctor (welfare, etc., free clinics...) and even get us to pay your utility bills (CETA). All I see from you "wanting a better life" people is an arrogance and a view that you are "OWED" these privileges from, guess who?, those lazy Americans (who, if it weren't for them, there would be no money for you to come over here and steal, yes, steal!) Do youselves a favor, do the right thing, come over here legally, going through the proper channels, and then we won't b*tch!! We always have tried to do the right thing with immigrants, so try to do the right thing for your HOSTS!!!! "
???? wrote on Jan 11, 2007 11:46 AM:
" Well this isnt an issue about illegals or not this is an issue about crime, which in every nationality it happens not just with hispanics or illegals. "
Bob wrote on Jan 11, 2007 12:15 PM:
" To Tommy Trojan.
How was your grandparent's land stolen? If you are referring to the Mexican American War, the United States paid Mexico approximately 10 mil. dollars, a huge sum in that day. Mexican citizens living in the territory were given the choice of staying and becoming U.S. citizens or moving back to Mexico. None had their land stolen.
Oh, and how about last year's Rose Bowl? Gotta love VY. Hook 'em. "
Tspud wrote on Jan 11, 2007 2:09 PM:
" To concerned: What makes you think you've read all my posts? I've posted many times that bad behavior does not condone other bad behavior. I don't put all blame on ILLEGALS, just the ones breaking the law and that is easy to find. Again I am not ranting & raving, it's others here that do that. Point to a specific post that I have put up that is not true or factual. Since most of these threads are about illegals, what else should I post, that I endorse it? I can't & won't. The simple fact that they broke the law to get here and continue to do it time after time supports my arguments. Each time someone says that most are good hard working people trying to get ahead, it's an attempt to change the subject. "
someone wrote on Jan 11, 2007 4:07 PM:
" Dear everyone's who has posted. I'm sure you each have a unique reason for hating, or not wanting, latinos in your country. Somewhere above I read someone saying something that CULTURE is important, and that most of the people there that are latinos rob, steal, mug, etc etc etc... But the real problem is not your politicians who allow them to pass, the great majority of them are hard-wroking people who try to do the best for their families so they can send back money so their kids/fathers/anyone who they care for, don't allow, or rather won't allow, them to starve... That's why they go to work there in the first place. Maybe, what we all need, is a time to get to know the other well, because not all go to the US to do wrong, the majority goes because in the US they believe they can have a greater chance at a job opportunity...
Oh, and by the way, most of the cities in mexico are not like they paint them in the movies... they might have been like that in, I don't know, 50 or more years ago... But... unlike the way you think... we have something called technology in the majority of our cities... And, to end this, Illegal workers don't steal their jobs from you... they get the jobs they can, usually the ones with high risks and the ones you, the american people, don't take...
Thank you all for your time and comprehension... "
Erik wrote on Jan 11, 2007 4:55 PM:
" The only way this is going to stop is if we rise up and take our communites back one way or another. "
disappointed wrote on Jan 11, 2007 5:27 PM:
" to concerned, i do not understand how you can read anything i have ever written and come away with that i am attacking a race. i am not. i am attacking the problem of illegal immigration and if that happens to be done more or less by a specific race then so be it. yes a crime was committed and that is sad but when it is done by people who should not be here then that is all the worse. control the borders then we control the bad apples coming in that do reflect poorly on a good and proud race/culture. were i Hispanic i would resent illegal Hispanics coming here and bringing shame to my people. again, i do not blame the individual illegal coming here to better themself nearly as much as i do our government for letting them slip in. "
RACE is an issue wrote on Jan 12, 2007 10:20 AM:
" Since crime rates are demonstrably higher for Hispanics and Blacks than Whites and Asians across the board, it appears it IS a racial issue.
Those who petition otherwise are simply afraid of the TRUTH.
"
Tspud wrote on Jan 12, 2007 11:20 AM:
" "After posting on this site now for a couple of weeks, I want to make something clear. I don't care from where the ILLEGAL immigrant comes from. There are a lot of white ILLEGALS from Europe/Russia floating around the US on expired visas and Chinese from Asia, Muslims driving cabs, etc. It's anyone sucking up the social services and making it worse here for tax paying citizens that I detest. Just what does Citizenship mean if ILLEGALS get more or better benefits without paying the tax? " "
wantmgone wrote on Jan 12, 2007 7:11 PM:
" Pretty simple folks... The word is ILLEGAL.. Seems no one knows what that means anymore. Look up the stats on illegals and major crimes. Speaks for itself. That young man would still be alive today only if... "
Charles Oak Island wrote on Jan 12, 2007 9:11 PM:
" Americans for Legal Immigration
http://www.alipac.us/ "
To Hook Em wrote on Jan 12, 2007 10:33 PM:
" We are SC.........Fight on!!!
Where is Texas today? Forget about
The Hogs............I don't think
you guys what any......
Where we we be Next Year and the year after etc, etc?
It does not take an "Illegal Alien"
to say "Numero Uno" Baby #1.
My sorrows go out to the family.
Now let the Courts to thier Jobs!
From Tommy trojan "
JP wrote on Jan 12, 2007 11:22 PM:
" And why aren't these girls getting arrested also? Who cares if they were scared or not....they saw someone get murdered and they kept quiet..they should be put in jail also. "
disappointed wrote on Jan 13, 2007 1:22 AM:
" the gov needs the girls to testify most likely so they will use them and let it go. "
observer wrote on Jan 13, 2007 11:04 AM:
" fisrt americans brougt chinese people, like slaves to work in the rail roads tracks, then americans brogut black people to work in the cotton plantations, now construction, poultry and agrigulture is doing by hispanic, so yes americans are a lacy race. "
Tommy Trojan USC wrote on Jan 13, 2007 5:20 PM:
" To observer...........You make my case
regarding the Literacy leval in your neck of the woods.........Try using spell check Ya All! Anyhow We In So. California see it this way, If The U.S. Govenment could not prevent 9-11, Can not build levees in New Orleans, can not end the war In Iraq, How do you expect Our Government to catch all 11 Million Illegals Immigrants from ALL
Nationalities and deport them? Think about it? Stop worrying in regards of these 2 Thugs...Thats all they are. In the end, God will be the true Judge and Jury.......Now let the Courts to thier Jobs!...........Fight On! "
reason wrote on Jan 14, 2007 1:14 AM:
" I think it is time for the families of people who have been victimized by illegal immigrants to start filing suits against the US government for failure to protect the citizens of this country from foreign invasion. If enough people attempt to sue US our govenment might get the message. It's time we hold our government accountable.
As far as the inaccurate comments of Jessica, I keep commented, someone at this newspaper does not believe in free speech. All I can say check the website and see for yourself, Jessica obviously did not tally the number of hispanics in jail. She just assumes we will think she knows what she is talking about. "
reason wrote on Jan 14, 2007 3:07 AM:
" By the way, the US government, while incompetent, is not that incompetent. If the government wanted to we could deport the 30 million illegals and protect our border. We have done it before under Eisenhour. They just have a differnent agenda. Eventially they will have to change that agenda, because the Mexican government itself is going to force the issue. Already there have been several incidences of gunfire by Mexican soldiers toward our border patrol. The Border Patrol has had their hands tied by the US government, but how much aggression will the US put up with. It seems the Mexican government has more gall then common sense. 58% of Mexican nationals believe they have a right to live in the US. The US owes them a living, somehow, because they have not developed their own natural resources which would make them a wealthy nation. http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/08/world-exclusive-mexican-gunmen-involved-in-arizona-border-incident-actually-uniformed-mexican-force/
"
ceblak wrote on Jan 14, 2007 12:09 PM:
" Times are getting more & more dangerous. Teach our young people to take care who they get with. Pray to the Lord to watch over them. Put faith in God & teach the kids the to do the same. Read the Bible with your children from the time they are old enough to pay attention & to understand. We are God's children & he has to be the real judge but it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be some really harsh punishment here. I have always thought an eye for an eye. Unless it is self-defense or accident, I have always believed in capital punishment. Oh yeah, if people get away with murder here, on this earth, they won't when they stand before God, unless they are truly sorry in their heart. My friend once said what was the point because anyone can be forgiven & be sorry. I told her God knows whether or not a person is truly sorry & I just wonder how many have a concience to begin with. So there you go! "
rabbitsfoot wrote on Jan 14, 2007 5:39 PM:
" Read "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" & you'll where you hv bn invaded. "
Dear Reason wrote on Jan 15, 2007 4:09 PM:
" Learn how to spell before you leave any
more comments...It is not Eisenhour,it is PresidentEisenhower........Dwight David Eisenhower.
He served from 1953-1961. A little History lessons for you Hogs and Bill Clinton fans...and it is not differnent but different.....I state my case
regarding your States Illetracy Giftness..Fight On USC
Your's Truly,
Tommytrojan "
*>*>*>*>*>*>* wrote on Jan 23, 2007 10:57 AM:
" TO TELL THE TRUTH DERRICK WAS A REALLY NICE GUY AND WE ARE ALL GOIN TO MISS HIM he didnt deserve this!!!!! BUT ANYWAYS DERRICK LIKED EVERYONE MEXICANS,WHITES,BLACKS EVERYONE... SO I THINK EVERYONE WHO IS TALKIN ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT OTHER RACES REALLY NEED TO STOP...EVERY RACES HAS DONE BAD CRIMES... R.I.P D LO WE ALL LOVE YOU AND MISS YOU... YOU WILL BE IN MY HEART 4EVER... "
I LOVE THIS BOY... wrote on Jan 31, 2007 1:21 AM:
" KELLY? IF U EVER READ THIS PLEASE WRITE ME BACK,I CANT SAY IM FEELING UR EXACT PAIN BUT I LOVE UR BROTHER AND ALWAYS WILL,IM VERY DISSAPOINTED IN MYSELF THAT I DIDINT HEAR BOUT IT TILL LAST WEEK.I WILL DO ANYTHING TO HELP U AND UR FAMILY,BUT FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE CEMETERY IS AT IF U CAN PLEAS CALL ME AT 479-313-3408 I WILL APRECIATE IT SO MUCH!! ALL U STUPID PEOPLE TALKN BOUT DERRICK NOT SUPOZD TO B OUT LATE HE WAS JUST TRYIN TO HAVE FUN.AND OF COURSE HE DIDNT DESERVE IT,I KNOW I WILL GET TO C U SOON BABY D,I LOVE U with all my heart and i miss u so much...
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concerned wrote on Feb 7, 2007 1:17 PM:
" To Jessica, you need to check your information on the percent of illegals in other states in our prisons. To the ones who say that the white people wont work in the fields, who do you think did it before the invasion from illegals. "
to concerned wrote on Feb 12, 2007 11:13 PM:
" white people wont do the field work so who do u get to do it illegals and i would like to see all white all over the u.s do all the jobs that they dont like to do so mexicans can get a break and by the way many of of us are educated and arent dumb enough not to know what we can do we do know are rights "
ABUELITACHIDA wrote on Apr 9, 2007 5:16 PM:
" ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM THE PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE DONT HAVE SELF RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES LET ALONE OTHER PEOPLE BUT FROM SOMEONE WHO IS MARRIED TO AN EX ILLEGAL ALIEN NOT ALL MEXICANS ARE BAD YOU HAVE YOUR GOOD AND BAD IN ALL RACES THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR LAZYISM OR MURDER I DONT CARE WHAT RACE YOU ARE. MY PRAYERS ARE WITH THE FAMILY AND MAY THE VICTIM NOW FIND PEACE! "
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Not Again. wrote on Jan 6, 2007 7:14 AM: