Charges Filed in Death of 17-Year-Old

Dimas-Martinez, Magana, to be arraigned Monday

Last updated Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:49 PM CST in News

By Robin Mero
The Morning News

    BENTONVILLE --Prosecutor Van Stone filed formal charges Thursday against two Springdale men in the Dec. 30 shooting death of Derrick Jefferson, 17, of Centerton.

    Erickson Dimas-Martinez, 21, will be arraigned Monday before Benton County Circuit Judge David Clinger on a charge of capital murder and aggravated robbery -- and Uris Galdamez Magana, 20, on charges of accomplice to capital murder and accomplice to aggravated robbery.

    The men could be sentenced to life in prison if convicted. Stone hasn't said whether his office will seek the death penalty.

    Police said Jefferson was getting a ride home from the men after a party, but was ordered out the car and shot in the head so the two men could have the money in his pocket -- perhaps as little as $30. Two girls who were acquainted with Magana, and who'd invited Jefferson to the party, watched and cried in the back seat. The girls, who are younger than 18, later gave accounts of the crime that helped police identify the men.

    The men are held without bond. Police believe Dimas-Martinez is a legal immigrant in the United States on a work permit, and Magana is in the country illegally.

    Jefferson's body was found by a passerby about 8:40 a.m. Dec. 30 in the driveway of a home at 4265 N. 40th St. in south central Benton County just outside Springdale.

    According to court documents, Jefferson and friends went to a Fayetteville strip club the night before he died. Jefferson and Wilfredo Cortez then went to Rio Bravo restaurant in Springdale, but it was closed. In the parking lot, they met two girls who invited them to a party at a duplex in east Springdale. The girls had been at the party earlier with Magana, whom they knew as "Jason." Dimas-Martinez was also there.

    Cortez decided to leave the party because he felt a male was trying to intimidate him. He told police he left about 1:30 a.m. Jefferson wanted to stay and began asking others to give him a ride home later. He offered gas money, saying he had about $30.

    Jefferson, Dimas-Martinez, Magana and the two girls got in Dimas-Martinez's red, four-door Honda.

    Dimas-Martinez told Jefferson to drive, eventually ordering him to stop in the driveway of the North 40th Street home. He pulled out a handgun, pointed it in Jefferson's face and ordered Jefferson out of the car, the affidavit states.

    Dimas-Martinez ordered Jefferson to remove his coat and shirt and give him the money, then shot Jefferson in the head, the affidavit states.

    Police haven't found the murder weapon, but located a .38 shell casing from the driveway where Jefferson's body was found.

    They arrested Dimas-Martinez on Jan. 4 at a Springdale residence, where he was hiding in a closet. He denied meeting Jefferson and claimed he left the party about 11 p.m. and slept until 10 a.m. Public Defender Jay Saxton was appointed to represent Dimas-Martinez.

    Magana was arrested on an Immigration and Customs Enforcement hold. Clinger appointed Marianne Hudson with the conflicts office of the Arkansas Public Defender Commission to represent him.

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    Marezakoop wrote on Jan 18, 2007 10:15 PM:

    " Fourteen Americans are murdered a DAY in America by illegals. That does not account for those Americans killed each day by illegal drunk drivers. When are we people going to wake up! Wake Up, AMERICA...we're being over run, and killed by illegals. How crazy does it have to get, before we say...enough is enough? "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 18, 2007 10:47 PM:

    " Every day it's more of the same and we have to listen to the argument that they hard working people just trying to make a better life. That does not excuse the identity thefts, driving with no license, no insurance, non paying medical bills etc. Here's todays latest: Illegal Alien, Rafael Ramirez Perez, Injures Three, Kills One US Citizen In Hit And Run Drunk Driving Accident After Being Arrested 4 Times And Deported. This easily could have been prevented if there was actual border security and if local law enforcement could have actually done something the first time this dirtbag was arrested in this country. Same for Erickson Dimas-Martinez "

    To Someone wrote on Jan 19, 2007 4:51 AM:

    " I think you should get to the point of the matter..... "

    Springdale Citizen wrote on Jan 19, 2007 5:26 AM:

    " These two young men need to be punished to the fullest. Shame on them! Shame on the Bush Administration for not enforcing the border laws. These types of crimes will continue until the American people take back our Country. It is very clear that the Fed will not be doing anything about it! "

    To all the above wrote on Jan 19, 2007 6:43 AM:

    " You're idiots and I wish YOU would go to Mexico. "

    reason wrote on Jan 19, 2007 7:17 AM:

    " Mexicans made Mexico what it is, we made America. "

    Arnie wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:07 AM:

    " Just look what has happened to our once peaceful area--99% of crimes are committed by "immigrants"; illegal or not--they ALL should learn how to abide by OUR laws; this isn't Mexico, this is AMERICA!! Why should we have to learn spanish just to get a job! To "reason", I totally agree, but soon this country will be named AMEXICA!! "

    Where wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:27 AM:

    " is the person that is always complaining about Americans dislike for Hispanics? Where are you now, so quick to respond on a crime that isn't caused by hispanic, but never able to comment on the millions of illegal crimes. Hispancis please unite and help send the bad seeds back to Mexico, the only make you and your children targets of radical hate crimes "

    Fast Eddie wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:29 AM:

    " If Prosecutor Stone doesnt go for the death penalty in this, he has alot of explaining to do. Theres motive, witnesses, evidence and history. Slam dunk. This area is becomeing a war zone. I am going to purchase a legal weopn. register it, and have it by my side for protection at all times. I suggest the rest of us law abiding, tax paying voters do the same. Local agency's, law inforcement and our wonderful goverment can't protect us. So we have to start protecting ourselves. Theres a cival war already in this country, in our hearts if not in the streets, because of less than human idiots like this. I hope you fry Martinez. "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:34 AM:

    " TO all of the above: What a well thought out and insightful post. "

    To Arnie wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:46 AM:

    " All laws are broken by immigrants because none of us here are naturally from here. AMERICA was and is founded on immigration. Are you really so stupid that you do not know that? There is no such thing as a TRUE American. We all came from somewhere else. Including the Native Americans!!! "

    ????? wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:52 AM:

    " To arnie, by the way hunn hispanics didnt cause all of the crimes only, so did americans because they commit crime too, plus there is alot of americans that are wanna be hispanic and hang out with the crowd. "

    COMMENTS PLEASE wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:52 AM:

    " MOST WANTED Avery was arrested Tuesday in connection with felony aggravated robbery, failure to pay fines, manufacture of a controlled substance, possession of drug paraphernalia, unauthorized use of property to facilitate crime, simultaneous possession of drugs and firearms, possession of firearms by certain persons and a misdemeanor failure to appear "

    to reason wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:56 AM:

    " yea we made mexico what it is, and trust me it isnt like here were they are committing crime it aint like that over there we learn that here when we come to america. from your supposibly good people "

    New Bush Hater wrote on Jan 19, 2007 8:58 AM:

    " I was for President Bush in both elections. Now I can't stand him. Not only for the crisis in Iraq and his selfishness on oil. Get this. Two Border Patrol agents were trying to get a vehicle to stop. Vehicle did not stop, one of the Officers sees a gun and both open fire on the vehicle wounding the suspect. The suspect flees back to Mexico and in the vehicle is narcotics and a gun. So now these border patrol agents are in a federal pen. The Kicker, The suspect is now a "legal" citizen and has amnesty so he can testify against the agents. President Bush is now standing behind the District Attorney's. Shame on you. Time for a good ole fashin butt kickin. You man enough or are you going to hide behind the D.A.You whimp. "

    think about it... wrote on Jan 19, 2007 9:05 AM:

    " It's funny how everyone is up and ready to attack anything bad the hispanics do in this country, just like back in the days when "blacks" were not so greatly looked upon. Whites are always the victims, but by golly they are the first to go visit Mexico or any other latin country for there wonderful vacations. Get a grip America and get off your high horses, reality is we are all humans sinning like crazy everyday with crimes, hate in our hearts...don't throw stones if you yourself aren't PURE. "

    Hopeful wrote on Jan 19, 2007 9:07 AM:

    " This is a total disgrace, yes, there are good hispanics, I grew up with a large family (13kids) and they were great people(&legal), they were hard working and respectful, but it seems that most who are coming to our area now are the dregs of their society where life is cheap and they have no conscious. These are the ones who give the good ones bad names and a bad taste in my mouth. I want them gone back to Mexico or where ever there lifestyle is acceptable, but it is no here and they need to be punished to the full extent and sent back home. This is America and learn to speak ENGLISH. I will not learn to speak spanish for that reason even though it is a beautiful language. "

    TIRED wrote on Jan 19, 2007 9:11 AM:

    " Lol just forget all this crud do what i did. Get out of this breeding ground of hate. Move further into the country buy 20 or 30 acres and shoot anyone on your property. The whineing needs to stop for those of us that have lived here all are lifes. Tough that life is over illegal immigrants and the hispanics are now a permanant fixture. The only recourse anyone now has that if you are being hurt or robed. That you can kill them befor they kill you. I encourage everyone to carry a knife or something lethal on them so that if you do shoot and kill one of them. You can plant evidence to justify killing someone who attacked you. this post will probabley get deleted but hopefully some of you will get to read it "

    Born Here wrote on Jan 19, 2007 9:38 AM:

    " We have our share of bad seeds just like any culture, however when you come to America, or Arkansas as the case may be, learn to speak our language, respect our rights, so we can respect yours. It is not alright to kill goats in your back yard here, unless you live in the country. I realize that alot can not afford having the animal processed but go out of town, I am sure their are some Mexican families that leave in the country. Try to live a better, decent , more productive life, forget letting a gun or knife rule the way you handle things, most of us don't live like that, I said most, and I don't want to live in fear. I have never been anti-mexican, I have a grandson who is part mexican but the bad must be punished and then the good ones can be respected just like with the whites, blacks,asians, whatever. "

    Concerned wrote on Jan 19, 2007 9:40 AM:

    " We all need to go back to the good old days where we try, find guilty and put to death these serious and repeat offenders.Instead all the good hard working AMERICANS are working 50-60 hours weekly to house and feed those unworthy of even breathing our air. AMEN to TIRED! Open your eyes and realize the justice system is not going to protect us, we have to protect ourselves. "

    Danny wrote on Jan 19, 2007 10:02 AM:

    " Hey everyone hold your horses, I'm a US Citizen but Mexican, This people who did this should be punished to the max, I hate people like that. Now on the other side, I see a lot of racism comments on this article, This is about the crime they committed and not about us mexicans. "

    Example.... wrote on Jan 19, 2007 11:14 AM:

    " For all the people who think the Mexican invasion is a good thing, just go to to Los Angeles, CA, Phoenix, AZ and the inner cities in Texas and see what has happened there. Graffiti, gangs, crime, slums (barrios), lowered property values, shopping carts all over the place, men hanging out with nothing to do, prisons full of Hispanics, emergency Rooms full of non-paying Hispanics, etc. Then come back here and say what that illegal immigration is a GOOD thing. Our politicians are importing crime and poverty for votes. "

    Razorback wrote on Jan 19, 2007 11:59 AM:

    " Our only hope to save our country from the flood of Illegal Mexicans is to elect Tom Tancredo to the office of President of the United States. "

    Razorback wrote on Jan 19, 2007 12:02 PM:

    " Go to WWW.TomTancredoforPresident.com "

    ????? wrote on Jan 19, 2007 12:05 PM:

    " Yea there is graffiti in all those places but think about it, in all those hispanics who are doing that theres americans doing that as well and in all the non paying hispanics theres americans doing that as well, its not just hispanics. the problem is that you AMERICANS ONLY WANT TO SEE, WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE NOT REALITY DUUUUUUHHHHH "

    to razorback wrote on Jan 19, 2007 12:06 PM:

    " shut up, your dumb you make mistakes too, dont judge without first looking at yourself. "

    Razorback wrote on Jan 19, 2007 1:14 PM:

    " TO: "Shut UP": Take your dumb Illegal Mexican self back to Mexico! "

    laser wrote on Jan 19, 2007 1:17 PM:

    " If a white person(s)committed this crime against a hispanic immigrant, there would have been all kinds of immigrant activist groups and outrage from the hispanic community. However, this was a sinister crime committed against a white person, and there will be very little done. What about the gentleman that was shot to death @ the stop light on 71B & Pleasant Grove Rd in Rogers? That involved 3 hispanics, and nothing has been said about it in a very long while. I guess what I am trying to say is dont make my country (US) sorry and pathetic like yours. (Mexico) You made it that way, please go back. I am tired of all the "bleeding hearts" in this state. We need to take it back. "

    Just Me wrote on Jan 19, 2007 1:20 PM:

    " Who ever commits a crime should be punish. It doesn't matter if your hispanic, white, black, yellow or etc. If your here b/c of jobs issues, you should talk your goverment and raise hell in your country. Don't come to America and if your going to hurt the American community or our people. For those suicides bombers, go bomb yourself in the back yard or bomb your president. Leave America alone. "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 19, 2007 1:37 PM:

    " To ???? It sure is easy for you to get on here and tell people to shut up. The question is not about citizens doing the crimes, it's the ILLEGALS that should not be here doing them. Pointing at bad behavior does not condone other bad behavior. Just because you don't pay your taxes, lie & cheat doesn't make it alright for me to do it also. Severe penalties NEED to be enforced on law breaking ILLEGALS so that the message is clear, we don't want your kind of lawlessness here. "

    To all wrote on Jan 19, 2007 2:04 PM:

    " Where you against illegals when they were building your homes, malls, shopping centers, roads??? Think about why this is such a big deal now and not two years ago. "

    to tspud wrote on Jan 19, 2007 2:21 PM:

    " look tspud you dont come in here an give all your racism comments, yea they are illegals, but that dosent give you the right to talk bad about all the hispanics i agree that people who are illegal to come down here to america and start doing all these crazy bad things, but there are also those who do come illegal and actually are good people who are trying to make something of their life... "

    God Send wrote on Jan 19, 2007 2:24 PM:

    " All this crime and racism just needs to stop, God loves and forgives all who come to him, dont put people aside because of what they have done instead lend a hand and help them to be a better person, If God who being perfect forgave us all for our sins, and accepted YOU AND ME just like we were with our mistakes, lets just try to make this world a better place for our children, and Pray for our country and for all AMEN!!! "

    to laser wrote on Jan 19, 2007 2:29 PM:

    " hello laser you know hunn trial takes a while not just form one day to another. and today they posted up something about that maybe you should look!!!! "

    sad day in America wrote on Jan 19, 2007 2:34 PM:

    " It is a sad day when American citizens are starving and getting thrown out of their homes because they can't find a job. I know a self employed contractor who is in exactly that situation because crews of illegal, non-tax paying hispanics underbid him. Also the work being done on theses homes is substandard. If you don't believe it just ask someone who unfortunately bought some of these homes which are falling down around them within 2 years. "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 19, 2007 3:45 PM:

    " This is a free speech forum and I don't have to be lectured by the likes of you. I DO come in here and make my comments, but they are not racist, just the truth. It very clear you are all for ILLEGALS and them ripping off the American taxpayer. I am not talking bad about all Hispanics, just the ILLEGAL ones, if you are one then that includes you. Your argument that they come here to make a better life is a smoke screen to change the subject. Just how many people are we supposed to let in, 40, 50, 60 million? Unfortunately most do NOT obey the law and you know it. Calling me names does not change that fact. "

    to god send wrote on Jan 19, 2007 3:49 PM:

    " um is it just me or has everyone else forgot that more people hate or have hated,killed,genocide,tortured in the name of god, than from any war. you wanna offer up a prayer offer this one "God dont let me be a moron today and try to convert someone to my ignorant one sided religeon." now as for the rest of you my cousins are half mexican english speaking citizens but look very much latino. im all for everyone hateing criminals ive wanted them to bring back the gallows for years. make the death sentences held day after trial and be made public. my point is some latino's are here legally have made america thier home pay thier taxes. while others are a plague fight if you wish but fight the good fight see right and wrong not the color you wanna stop crime. petition the government to take 5 death row inmates and hang them at once publically next month do the same and the next. and then i garuntee you, you will notice a decline in crime. if an illegal does it and he is proven guilty hang him that day dont deport i garuntee you they will stop comeing or behave. many will say im tough. yes im very conservative. "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 19, 2007 3:50 PM:

    " to whomever: Look back in this discussion and show me one of my posts that has anything racist in it. Throwing out the racist card doesn't take much thought and shows a lack of reasonable thought. "

    go back wrote on Jan 19, 2007 5:33 PM:

    " everyone go back to your own continent, whites back to europe, blacks back to africa, asians back to asia, mexicans back to southern north america, that way everyone would shut up "

    wow wrote on Jan 19, 2007 7:16 PM:

    " ATLANTA - Immigration officials have arrested 40 illegal workers hired by military contractors in three states, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Friday. The arrests took place on Wednesday and Thursday in Georgia, Virginia and Nevada, the agency said. The workers were hired by different subcontractors, none of which faced federal charges, Rocha said. Twenty-four illegal immigrants were arrested while trying to enter Fort Benning, Ga., on Wednesday to do construction work on soldiers' barracks, said agency spokesman Richard Rocha. Of the workers arrested, 21 were charged with identity theft and immigration violations. The three not facing criminal charges were to be placed in immigration removal proceedings. Similar raids at military installations in Nevada and Virginia on Thursday netted 18 other arrests, including two people accused of harboring illegal aliens, agency spokesman Marc Raimondi said. The 16 people arrested in Virginia include 14 undocumented workers who are not facing criminal charges but will be sent to immigration removal proceedings, including three arrested at the Quantico Marine Base. The two workers arrested in Nevada also are not facing criminal charges. Immigration officials released few details, but said the arrests resulted from a seven-month investigation. Military installations and other structures considered critical to ___ "

    unable to hate wrote on Jan 20, 2007 11:40 AM:

    " i think that we should all stop and think about the crime as a crime, and not that some hispanics killed someone. we are so easy to jump to the race involved in the crime, what were 2 underage girls doing out at a party with men they didnt know, what causes someone to kill another over what was already offered to them? i still believe we need God back in our schools, not matter what language you speak, God is the same everywhere, in every languae and He is what we need to be focusing on and teaching our children. -25 year old mother of 3 "

    Bridget wrote on Jan 20, 2007 5:57 PM:

    " I agree that criminals should get their due punishment. But people are making way too much out of this. Let me straighten something out before I go on: Hispanics are not all Mexican. Immigrants and illegals are not all Mexican, so get a clue and use the right labels if you are so hard set on doing so. Now, on to the point. Crimes are committed by every nationality in the United States, not in majority by hispanics or even illegals. The crime rate is actually quite equal, at least a lot more equal than people are making it out to be. Also, I am not against hispanics immigrating to the US, even in floods like they have been doing. The diversity created by these immigrants enforces the very meaning of the modern United States, being a nation of freedoms. There are ways to balance out the differences, while still maintaining our heritage, whatever our heritage may be. We need to stop fighting over whose country this is and who has the right to be here and start finding compromises in our societies. The United States has a very diverse population, with many different languages, religions, etc. Why not try to strive for equailty and flexibility instead of arguing about race, religion, etc.? "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 20, 2007 7:13 PM:

    " Bridget, At what number should it stop? There are still many more millions living south of our border that would like to come here and have us pay all their expenses. Should we empty out every slum in Central & South America? Is that fair to us? Do we need to import poverty, socialism & the low educated? "

    To clueless Bridget wrote on Jan 21, 2007 2:56 AM:

    " I am surprised that anyone could be so clueless. The label is of Hispanic is irrelevant. The crime rate is not equal. mfire.org Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens. The proliferation of illegal alien criminal gangs across America is astounding. Even cities in America’s heartland, for example Omaha, Des Moines, Minneapolis, and Kansas City, now have illegal alien gangs. No community -- rural, suburban, or urban -- is immune.From city-jornal.orgSome of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens.We can’t even talk about it,” says a frustrated LAPD captain. “People are afraid of a backlash from Hispanics.” Another LAPD commander in a predominantly Hispanic, gang-infested district sighs: “I would get a firestorm of criticism if I talked about [enforcing the immigration law against illegals]In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens. Yes, the United States is a diverse country, but the language is English, and that was voted on by our founding fathers because language unites, diversity at that time would have made us too weak to win our indepence from England. German was the next language at the time and English won by just one vote. We would not be a country today if our founding fathers were not wise enough to know that diversity divides it does not strenthen it. "

    and wrote on Jan 21, 2007 4:29 PM:

    " Organized crime is running out of control in Mexico, Mexican President Felipe Calderon told the Spanish newspaper El Pais in an interview published on Sunday. "Organized crime is getting out of control and is causing serious worries in some regions of the country, like Michoacan," Calderon said. "Murder rates were exceeding those of Colombia at one point "

    to hateful Arkansas wrote on Jan 21, 2007 5:50 PM:

    " I moved to AR because of the quality of the people. Being a U.S born mexican...I see I was wrong! I feel sorry for all of you. GOD BLESS YOU! "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 21, 2007 7:44 PM:

    " It doesn't surprise me that a US born mexican(??) is even diapointed in the actions & quality of Erickson Dimas-Martinez & Uris Galdamez Magana! "

    justagirlfromschool wrote on Jan 22, 2007 2:16 AM:

    " THIS ISN'T EVEN ABOUT IF THEY ARE ILLEGAL OR NOT!!!! THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT A 17 YEAR OLD BOY WAS SHOT TO DEATH BECAUSE TO IDIOTS THOUGHT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH HIS MONEY! STOP FREAKING OUT OVER HOW YOU CAN GET THEM ALL OUT AND START FREAKING OUT ABOUT HOW YOU CAN STOP OTHER IDIOTS FROM HURTING MORE PEOPLE. STOP PEOPLE FROM HURTING THE KIDS. FREAK OUT ABOUT THE PROBLEM IN THIS STORY. MURDER NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS "

    Edie wrote on Jan 22, 2007 8:42 AM:

    " All crime committed is bad. And the people who committ them are guilty. But let's face it folks, when the person who commits the crime should not even be in this country, it leaves a foul taste in your mouth. Who needs more crime or proverty for that matter. Neither is good for a country. And unfortunately with all the uneducated people coming into this country illegally, we are importing both. Because poverty and crime are brother and sister to each other. "

    God send. wrote on Jan 22, 2007 11:00 AM:

    " God loves us all, and all this hating needs to stopppp!!!!! dont say that God is not a religion "

    justagirlfromschool wrote on Jan 22, 2007 11:32 PM:

    " okay im 18... I live in bentonville... i know the boy... i know everyone he knows. this hurts... it makes me cry... and want to scream. but i don't see a Rest In Peace Derrick or anything like that. I see a bunch of "get out of america!" I can't change what you think about who is here and how they got here.. but just remember that it wasnt a illegal immigrant that killed him. it was a very sick person... and trust me those kind of people arent even illegal! so while you are arguing about how to get rid of them. just say a little prayer for Derrick and his family... and keep others in your thoughts... because this kind of stuff happens every day... and all we have the guts to do is sit here and talk about it. R.I.P Derrick Jefferson ~b.e.d.d.~ "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 23, 2007 8:52 AM:

    " If the government would do it's job about enforcing the borders & laws, your friend might be alive today. RIP Derrick "

    wading in wrote on Jan 23, 2007 10:34 AM:

    " we are not all immagrants, those of us who are born in AMERICA want to have standards set for AMERICANS, i agree, it is not one particular group of illegals, it is equal, bu..they are here illegally which as we can see leads to crimes of vengance, anger, even hate and jealousy. what a shame, the land of the free and the home of the brave... i don't think that ment to run over those of us who work daily and are NOT here illegally to allow others to come in and kill innocent legal citizens, then provide the murder with legal AMERICAN counsel, bought and PAID for with LEGAL tax dollars. wake up and smell the coutries continual abuse. "

    Spicybug wrote on Jan 23, 2007 2:14 PM:

    " I read through about ten of the comments above and don't expect mine will be read either, however, here goes. Let's face it. Unless you are an American Indian (I'm not.)we are all immigrants in one fashion or another. I don't care what creed, color, nationally you 'came from' as long as you are here legally!!! All crooks and murderders need to pay the consequence for their actions. We, as Americans, should know Enlish, allow ONE flag to acknowledge America (yes, the American Flag, God Bless America) and stop all this hate talk and racist talk and blaming a political party. This problem has been going on since salvery. I'm Causcasian. Can everyone just get over themselves and get along? "

    Spicybug wrote on Jan 23, 2007 2:17 PM:

    " ...before anyone makes a nasty comment, I did mean "English" in the above paragraph. I use to spellcheck, sorry. "

    disappointed wrote on Jan 23, 2007 9:30 PM:

    " people who throw out the arguement that "we are all immigrants" forget to mention that in the past immigration was controlled as to numbers, who was allowed in and where they entered. at no time in our history has so many come in in such a short time. regardless of our nation's past and how it came into being, either through force of arms/war or purchasing the land or even stealing it, we are here as we are and i for one refuse to sit still while others steal what is mine. let us learn from the mistakes of our natives and stop the onslaught now so our grandchildren are not sitting around 30-50 years from now wondering what happend. "

    disappointed wrote on Jan 23, 2007 9:49 PM:

    " at the end of the day no arguement raised by the open borders crowd justifies any group of people to sneak illegally into a free, sovereign nation. i know too many good, honest, law abiding Mexican-Americans who agree with me to change my mind. they love their country, this country. if a person is here illegally they need to go back to their home, even if he/she is white and shares my last name. for the record, our govt is to blame for failing to protect us. it does not make it right but who can blame a man for sneaking in here to better his place in life? while i pity him but we must uphold our laws. let them go home and try to fix the problems there that cause them to have to leave their home. "

    Tspud wrote on Jan 24, 2007 3:37 PM:

    " Ok, so what if im stupid let me be, if im racist let me be it is a free country, so let me be ignorant, dumb and with out a clue of what im talking about im stupid, and i know it... "

    megatron wrote on Jan 24, 2007 6:19 PM:

    " just a note: America was founded by immigrants. Unless you are 100% Native American you, my friends, are all products of immigration. "

    disappointed wrote on Jan 24, 2007 6:59 PM:

    " to megatron, so please explain how the truth of your statement justifies what is going on with illegals coming here. please see my entry a few entries before yours. nothing justifies it. i look forward to your reply. thx! "

    SadinLosAngeles wrote on Jan 25, 2007 5:04 AM:

    " Yes, sadly, Los Angeles The Mecca of Illegal Immigration has been over run by tatooed gang members 18-40 years old from El Salvadore, Dominican Republic, Honduras, and Mexico. They have arrived in mass numbers, they live in the shadows, and roam the now grafitii ridden streets selling drugs, with complete protection provided by ex gang banger L.A. Mayor Phoney Tony Villa with his insistance of continuing to implimentation of Special Order 40. WAKE UP AMERICA DO NOT LET YOUR CITIES BECOME ANOTHER LOS ANGELES!! "

    SeaLawyer wrote on Jan 25, 2007 4:00 PM:

    " The core problem to not only the immigration issues but most all problems in the United States is simple. THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES NO LONGER FUNCTIONS AS PER THE CONSTITUATION...PERIOD. The U.S. Government only represents Big Business. Today employers think they own you lock, stock and barrel. Within the next 50 years they will be two classes of americans, they super rich and the super poor. Every passing day Americans are losing their freedom. You do not hear anything about it on the "news". Not on TV or Newpapers. Ask yourself this. What does Iraq have to do with the U.S. Constituation and our Bill of Rights. Illegals are here because our government turned a blind to it because it directly benifited Big Business get even bigger. NAFTA is a disaster for all Americans. In my opinion the Government is selling our the American people. I challenge you to find one service our goverment provides that functions. I feel so sorry for upcoming generations of American's. If we think it's rough now I can not even begin to comprehend how hard it will be for them. "

    Fast Eddie wrote on Jan 26, 2007 8:04 AM:

    " I agree SeaLawyer, but how do we as honest property owning tax paying voters deal with the chaos in our back yards? Viglantie justice seems more and more to be the only way to combat this kind of nonsense, when the public defenders, politicians, local business's and our own schools are forcing us into "tolerance and unity" as a smokescreen for revenue and profit. Mr. Stone, keep up the good fight and make a statement with this prosecution that we won't tolerate this any longer. "

    R.I.P. D-LOW wrote on Jan 30, 2007 11:44 AM:

    " For your information, crimes happen everyday. By asians,blacks,mexicans,whites and every other culture. But its not right that we just blame mexicans for everything that goes wrong in America. Derrick A-K-A D-LOW was one of my good friends and he gets along with everyone "even illegal mexicans".. But what i'm tryin to say is that he was just with some wrong ppl at the wrong time..so we can not just blame everything on mexicans OK!!! R.I.P. Derrick a-k-a D-low WE LOVE YOU!!! "

    TRUE MEXICAN wrote on Jan 31, 2007 11:42 AM:

    " ITS WRONG WHAT THEY DID BUT U CANT TAKE IT OUT ON ALL MEXICANS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL NOT THE SAME AMERICAN'S KILL MEXICANS AND U SEE NOTHING WRONG WIT IT BUT U CAN CAN NEVER STOP THE RISE..... BECAUSE THE MEXICAN'S LIVE!!!!! "

    TRUE MEXICAN wrote on Jan 31, 2007 12:04 PM:

    " WHITE PEOPLE ARE SO RACIST WHY DONT U GROW UP U TRY TO GET RIDE OF US BUT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN WERE HERE TO STAY IF U DONT LIKE IT THATS YOUR PROBLEM IM PROUD OF MY BROWN SKIN WHITE PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT US BUT YOUR ONLY MAKING US STRONGER BUT WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T ANYTHING ANYWAYS JUST HATERS GROW UP!!!! EAST SIDE PHOENIX "

    TRUE MEXICAN wrote on Jan 31, 2007 12:19 PM:

    " MY HOMEGIRL AND HOMEBOYS (MEXICANS) WERE KILLED BY TWO WHITE MALES AND ALL THOSE WHITE MALES GOT WAS 6MONTHS THATS NOTHING BECAUSE ITS NOT GONNA BRING MY HOMIES BACK TO ME IM GONNA BE REAL I WILL NEVER SHOW RESPECT TO A WHITE PERSON YOU TREAT US BAD I TREAT U THE SAME WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IT EASY BUT BLACKS AND MY RACE (MEXICAN) HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET WERE WE ARE BUT WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T ANY HIGHER THEN US AND NOT ON ARE LEVEL THERE LOWER THEN US AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!!!! EAST SIDE PHOENIX "


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