Reaction To Immigration Report Mixed
Last updated Wednesday, April 4, 2007 8:51 PM CDT in News
By Pablo Bello
The Morning News
BENTONVILLE -- Although immigrants are contributing to the economy and development of Northwest Arkansas, Maria Garcia would like to see more Hispanic people going to college.
Garcia was one of the dozens of people attending a presentation organized by The Winthrop Rockefeller Foundation on the population characteristics and economic impact of immigrants in Arkansas.
Garcia, who works with teenagers in Springdale, said the information related to education should be for everyone and especially for young people to motivate them to study.
"Immigrant students should work harder to be completely bilingual and go to college. The numbers that they showed us hurt me, so I would like to see more information for the community," said Garcia.
According to James Johnson Jr. of The University of North Carolina, one the authors of the study, an immigrant makes the same money or more than a native-born citizen, when the immigrant has the same level of education.
In some industries, such as health and social services, immigrants are earning more money than Americans because most of the physicians are foreign, said Johnson.
Garcia said she was impressed with the percentages related to the amount of work immigrants performed and how much the Hispanic population has grown, but unfortunately not all the information was favorable.
The level of college education among Hispanics (Mexicans 4%, Central Americans 9%) is the lowest in comparison to other groups such as Asians (52%) and native-born (17%).
Rep. Jon Woods, R-Springdale, sponsored a bill to enable local law enforcement to go after those who harbor illegal aliens, but the bill didn't pass the Senate. Woods said he wasn't familiar with the study, but he said the bill that he proposed was more about national security.
Woods said that when he was running his campaign for office, he was trying to address transportation and other issues, but many people complained about illegal immigrants taking their jobs in construction.
"I think that there is a lot of people that come here and want a better life ... but when you come here illegally there is lot of headache involved," said Woods.
He said that a lot of construction jobs have been affected by the cheap labor that illegal immigrants offer.
Bentonville Mayor Bob McCaslin said that the conference was informative. "I was disappointed that the data was two years old ... all those numbers are directional and a lot has changed in two years," he said.
Ana Hart, multicultural community relations manager from Tyson Foods, said the information from the Winthrop Rockefeller Foundation is what Northwest Arkansas needs.
"This study brings back to us ... what the immigrant community is about, not in assumptions, not in guesses, not in perception but in data," said Hart.
The information will prepare Northwest Arkansas to serve better the Hispanic community, said Hart.
The economic impact of the Hispanic population in Arkansas is impressive, said Margarita Solorzano, executive director of the Hispanic Women's Organization of Arkansas in Springdale.
Also important is the number of Hispanics that are replacing the people who are retiring from work, and the immigrants' buying power, she said.
"We are people who work hard and we are helping this country," said Federico Garcia, who attended the presentation.
Audience member Miranda Hallett said "one of the positive economic impacts that they showed us ... was that companies in this area are increasing their profits because they are able to pay to their (immigrant) workers less money ... I hope that companies recognized that and they are willing to pay to their workers more to increase their economic power, and to increase tax revenue."
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To: Jessica wrote on Apr 5, 2007 12:25 AM:
" I see why your rantings are always in CAPS, it's so that you can spout off and "mis-quote" about things you think people have said in articles. Nowhere in the above article did anyone say
"Hispanics are hard working
'CHRISTIANS'." Remember to " Engage Brain - Before Starting Tongue." "
Jokos wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:12 AM:
" Illegal aliens are dishonest and are breaking the 10 Commandments. I'm a Christian and I don't go around deliberately breaking the 10 Commandments.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
Illegals lie to get a job.
Thou shalt not covet anything that is thy neighbors.
America belongs to America and they covet it.
Thou shalt not steal.
The identity, SS#s... of Americas are stolen every day by illegal aliens.
Quit making excuses for the sinners that are sinning against Americans.
Hard working is a poor excuse to violate others, while sinning. Every illegal allien is dishonest. You are condoing sinfulness. "
CheshireCat wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:15 AM:
" Rally in DC with bloggers, radio personalities and many more Americans willing to stop amnesty.
If you are interested in effecting immigration policy, at the national level, then you should participate in www.HoldTheirFeetToTheFire.org
Go to DC April 22-26 or participate in the telephone and blogger back up.
Like never before, Americans are lobbying Congress against Amnesty plans.
Amnesty Alamo will Hold Congresses Feet to the Fire to Stop guestworker amnesty or should I say shamnesty. We need immigration enforcement in this country and no more far out guest worker programs, which just don't work. We need to stop the flow of illegal aliens at the border but we must go to Washington DC to do it.
Help lobby Congress and sign onboard.
Ches.
"
Taxpayer wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:20 AM:
" What is needed is a foundation to study how much of our taxpayer supported schools and our medical facilities is being utilized without compensation by these illegals. That would be more interesting! "
Mary wrote on Apr 5, 2007 8:04 AM:
" This "study" is garbage and the fact that Tyson Foods is praising it is all you need to know about it. Open borders propaganda from open borders pimps and ethnic demagogues!
Join www.numbersusa.com and send free faxes to your "representatives" telling them you don't want amnesty for the 12-20 million criminals our "government" has allowed into this country. Otherwise millions of people with the brainpower of "JESSICA" will be allowed to vote in our elections. "
BCR wrote on Apr 5, 2007 8:37 AM:
" Oh yeah, lets use more tax dollars to subsidize college tuition for these un-documented, non-income tax paying people without social security numbers. McCaslin hit the nail on the head, numbers that are TWO YEARS OLD are useless. They paint a picture from two years ago, not today. If this study was paid for by tax dollars, I'd ask for a refund. "
BCR wrote on Apr 5, 2007 9:10 AM:
" HEY, HEY, HEY THERE!! What's this "propaganda" stuff? These are factual figures dreamed up by a legitimate study group, and published by a reputable publisher. News papers never lie! You're all just bigoted, and don't really see the fact that illegal immigration is really a very good thing for us... It gives us the chance to stand on street corners with signs saying "will work for food". "
Tspud wrote on Apr 5, 2007 9:32 AM:
" I wonder if Jessica understands "Render unto Caesar…" Here's another study in todays Washington Post:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070405-123141-6880r.htm
Immigration reforms that increase the number of low-skilled workers entering the United States threaten to impose a high cost on taxpayers, says a study being released today.
The Heritage Foundation report calculates that for every $1 unskilled workers pay in taxes they receive about $3 in government benefits, including Medicaid, food stamps, public housing and other welfare programs.
Now my 2 cents. What about school, hospital, insurance & incarceration costs?
"
Thank God! wrote on Apr 5, 2007 10:01 AM:
" Thank God for the Mexicans, we can finally stop hearing about the how evil the blacks are! You all said them same thing about Blacks, Jews and those darn yankees; your hatred is nothing new. Jessica, TSPUD and others, read the study carefully; there is a lot of information that may help you reduce your anti-anxiety and ulcer medication. You might actually be a able to get a life, you know like go fishing, take a nice long walk, smell the fresh morning air, however I suspect that your blind obsession would only see too many Mexicans at the lake, see too many Mexicans on the trail and or smell to many Mexican meals "polluting" the morning air.
We get it already, you don't want them here, I know, I know you have already said this a thousand times in a hundred diffrent ways! OK I have an idea for all you who loath those brown folks, when you go shopping next time donate 40% extra to a charity or organization of your choice, let's say like the Minute Men or Patriots on Watch. Whren you buy a home or stay in a hotel or do anything that requires money do the same; that way you can protest those brown folks by paying the actual amount these goods and services would cost if these folks weren't around. Come on, it would be patriotic and oh so noble of you and most important honest of you. "
Tspud wrote on Apr 5, 2007 10:27 AM:
" I am paying the actual cost in higher health insurance, home insurance, car insurance, income taxes, etc. We are all carrying the added burdens to get cheap labor and are paying for it other ways and destroying our country in the process. Socialism is on the way because of our bleeding heart mentality. It's easy to buy votes with someone else's money. "
TO: Thank God wrote on Apr 5, 2007 10:40 AM:
" If you can tell me how to stop the government from taking out the 35% that I'm already contributing, please do. But I'm affraid 75% would be a little to much. And God knows I wouldn't qualify for any assistence, since I'm a caucasian AMERICAN. "
To 75% wrote on Apr 5, 2007 10:48 AM:
" Your'e the one complaining; I am simply trying to help you be honest. I can assure you that being caucasian never stops the long lines of caucasions Americans at the welfare office and it certainly does not stop your caucasian American friends from trading their assistance dollars for meth. And I am more then positve it wouldn't stop you from lining up for your farm subsisdy check,or your social securtiy check that these brown folks that you disparage pay for with the sweat of thier pigmented brow. "
Tspud wrote on Apr 5, 2007 11:28 AM:
" Pointing at other bad behavior doesn't excuse or condone their behavior in this country. You can get off your moral high horse now. Any crime by an ILLEGAL ought to be enough to send them packing. I notice you don't address the issue of the extra costs they put on citizens, but I expect that of someone who condones thieves and liars or is benefiting from it. "
JESSICA wrote on Apr 5, 2007 11:29 AM:
" TO JOKOS: JOKOS!! READ THE BIBLE..OUR LORD WAS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN, HE HAD TO JUMP THE FENCES OF MANY COUNTRIES: THE ROMAN EMPIRE, JORDAN, ISRAEL, EGYPT..OH MY GOD..HE WAS PERSECUTED AS A DOG!!
GO TO YOUR CHURCH NOW AND PRAY FOR THOSE HARDWORKING UNDOCUMENTED CHRISTIANS. "
American Citizen wrote on Apr 5, 2007 11:36 AM:
" Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907."In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907 "
THOSE THAT WRITE LIKE THIS wrote on Apr 5, 2007 11:44 AM:
" SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! USUALLY THOSE THAT WRITE LIKE THIS ARE UNABLE TO GRASP REALITY! A SIMPLE KEY ON A KEYBOARD IS CALLED THE "CAPS LOCK" KEY. A SIMPLE KEY LOCATED ADJACENT THE "A" KEY AND IN BETWEEN THE TAB AND LEFT SHIFT KEY. SOME PEOPLE HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS AND ARE UNABLE TO PRESS THE CAPS LOCK KEY IN ORDER TO BE A PART OF OUR FUNCTONING SOCIETY. It would be nice if we all go to our local church and pray for the souls of those that can not FIND THE CAPS LOCK KEY. So, if we all should disregard anything that ANYONE that chooses to continually type LIKE THIS, CAUSE THEY CAN NOT FIND IT WITHIN THEMSELVES TO DEPRESS THAT CAPS LOCK KEY, THEN I DOUBT THEY CAN FIND IT WITHIN THEMSELVES TO BE INTELLECTUALLY HONEST WITH NOT ONLY THEMSELVES, BUT TO THOSE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BRAINWASH! "
TO: To 75% wrote on Apr 5, 2007 11:51 AM:
" I did not make one complaint and I am being honest. For example I have been off work for the last 10 months due to 3 surgeries. I HAVE NOT applied for nor recieved any welfare or food stamps, nor have any friends or relatives. I DO NOT know of anyone that I associate with that uses Meth. I am to young to draw social security, so here I am still paying ALL of my bills, including my medical insurance premiums, on my PAID FOR for 70 acre farm with out EVER receiving any subsisdy asistence or help from any brown pigmented brow sweaters. I have accomplished this through my own toil and sweat. Seems to me that YOU are the one complaining (re-read your response-To 75%). I'm Stating Actual FACTS. Have a nice day...........
"
The benifits wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:05 PM:
" If an employer has an illegal alien working for him, pay's him $8 an hour non-taxed cash, and never shows him on the books, does that make the product he sells or manufactures any cheaper? New homes are being built here in NWA by illegal workers, they still cost $200,000. Who's pocketing the profit? Tyson employs these people in their plants, is your chicken any cheaper? Hotels employ them as workers, and my hotel room still costs $120 per night. Point is, the savings generate by cheap labor is not of benifit to the public, it's going to pay multi-million dollar bonuses to Tyson execs, Marriot execs, and home builders. "
It would be nice if wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:05 PM:
" most people would actually go to church on the Sabbath and not Sunday. "
To 75% wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:40 PM:
" Your comments sound like a non to closeted complaint. Don't sit there and suffer needlessly due to some misplaced notion of nobility. Go get the help you need, my hard working American freind, that is what is there for; for honest hard working people who need a little help from time to time.
And if you choose not to, don't impugn hard working brown people by blaming them of taking something they are not taking and what should be rightfully yours by virtue of your birthright. Take a look in the mirror and ask yourself the honest question again. Now you go on and have a nice day.... "
Rick J. Black Sr. wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:49 PM:
" Why does everybody turn this issue into a skin color problem? From what I can tell of this great debate, its all about culture and societal beleifs. Whose influences will dominate? Make no mistake about it, it is the character and conscience of this great land of ours that is being fought over. Cultures do not get blended, they get assimlated one way or another. Who dominates? Well, that really is the question isn't it? I fear this will have to be answered by our children or our grand children. But, if you want a clue, look at all your latin america countries and how things are run south of here. "
To TSPUD wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:49 PM:
" My point exactly: pointing out the bad behavior of one segment of the population is disingenous and foolish. So get off of your illogical horse and realize that crime is crime and it is unacceptable periord, no matter if the perpetrator is white, brown, green, yellow, or orange. Take a look at crime statistics in the area before you start writing your vicous little anecdotes. You can pretend that your straw man arguments are working but know that some of us can see right through your illogic at the racism that lurks just beneath the surface. "
Born American wrote on Apr 5, 2007 1:56 PM:
" Mexican bashing is the latest obsession of those that are FAILURES in one of the greatest economies on earth!
By the way, get to know a mexican family. They are always celebrating something - birthdays, religious holy days. Christmas season is celebrated beginning in mid-December and doesn't really end until the first week February. During that time it is one big religious holiday with religious observances, parties and plenty of food. Mexican Independence Day in mid-September is HUGE. I wish we celebrated the 4th of July here like they celebrate their Independence day. I have never met a people who enjoy celebrating with family more than they do. Pinatas, fire crackers, mariachis, music, dancing, drinking, laughing. Did I forget to mention food? It's a blast! And they can do all this even after working 12 hours a day 6 days a week for peanuts. At american parties all people do is stand or sit around talking bad about each other! We have to much of the puritan background to really enjoy ourselves. I'm telling you, ask one of the families if you can join them for Christmas or a birthday, you don't know what you're missing out on. By the way, if you're an american visiting non-tourist destination mexico, you are treated incredibly well. If you go to a party you are the guest of honor. How would you treat a mexican at one of your parties? "
To Mr. R. J. Black Sr. wrote on Apr 5, 2007 2:11 PM:
" So what are you insinuating? Is it skin color? Is it culture? Is it geography? Is it race? Is it socio-economics?
I can take a look at many South American countries and see many things that are run properly and I can see many things that are run imporperly. I can do the same for our country, including our governemnts bizarre policies on immigration.
At the end of the day If I had to choose the country where I'd live, hands down it would be my beloved America. Immigrants eventaully do assimilate and in due time become part of the dominate American culture; simply look at the various immigrant populations that have come to our shores from all over the world. We no longer call them Englishmen, Italians, Irish, Jewish, German, Norwegian, Polish, Russian, Spanish, French, we call ourselves: American. We have also benefited by many wonderfaul aspects of our past cultures: Corn beef and cabbage, St. Patrick's Day parades, pasta, tacos, etc. This is what makes America great. Grilled fajitas in a burrito along with a little apple pie for dessert, simply makes my eating experience all the more enjoyable. So be nice to our friends of all nationalities and enjoy the best of thier cultures. Now if we could only get our paranoid Southern brethern to quit telling our amigos to go home and get them to stop calling them bad names, we might actually get somewhere. Until then Viva America!! "
Tspud wrote on Apr 5, 2007 2:22 PM:
" You have missed the point entirely. These people should have been in jail or gone. You condone criminal behavior, ID theft, etc. I do not do these things and expect them to abide by the law. Just because you are ILLEGAL or have relatives that are, doesn't make it right. If you suffer from white guilt, that's your problem "
HnD wrote on Apr 5, 2007 2:25 PM:
" Our southern border neighbors are more than welcome here. Their culture has enhanced the American Dream in many wonderful ways, BUT, we welcome our neighbors, when they want to live in a LEGAL manner. Yes, the laws on immigration need to be revised to possibly make the even easier for good honest people, but it doesnt give the people the right to enter America illegally. If those that are supportive of the trespassing can not understand that, then there isn't much to talk about, for they will never understand. It isn't about the color of their skins, it is about the illegal activity. Our politicians have failed America as well as many businesses, it is up to the American public to be the squeaky wheel and find a better solution to this event. "
Eagle wrote on Apr 5, 2007 5:09 PM:
" This debate is a waste of time. The point is, there is nothing wrong with Mexican families, ways of life, ideals, or religious beliefs. These people are, in general, good Christian people. The problem is getting something for nothing. The people who came to this country over the generations that made it a "melting pot" did so legally by going through the proper channels. If all the Europeans where able to wade across the ocean and come here illegally, don't you think this debate would have happened in the past two centuries. This is the greatest country in the world not because we are faultless or perfect, but because anyone can acheive a dream if you chase that dream the right way, LEGALLY. I know Mexican families and they are great. I also know illegal Mexicans and they too can be good citizens, if they do it the right way. I don't condone illegal immigration or the harbering of such people, but I also believe in many people becoming one nation. But only if those people can do so without cheating the system. Thank you. "
I Missed the Point? wrote on Apr 5, 2007 5:36 PM:
" I have missed the point? You assume a lot Mr.TSPUD. I do not suffer from guilt, be it white, black or brown, I suffer from something that seems all too rare these days in NWA: SOUND LOGIC AND PRAGMATISM. Beware lest you too catch this "malady," it may turn your abdomen yellow, have you smelling flowers all day and humming songs about the Fatherland. You need to read my commnets again: I am oppossed to crime of all types, white, brown, yellow, green or orange. I do not condone crininal behavior, but do you condone hateful behavior ? Isn't it the hate that spawns the criminal behavior in the first place? How do you propose that we incarcerate 11MM that we asked to come into this country in the first place so that we could grow fat and spoiled by sweat of their brow? Who is going to pay for such a thing? How are we going to extradite 11MM people practically and then actually? Do you think that I would hand my children runaway inflation and a broken economy, just because you couldn't get over your disdain of people who are different then you? You would do well to consider that "Anigo Montoya" is your friend and next time you bump into him, you should kiss his "grubby" hand, right before he starts building your dream home for pennies, while you drive off to go get you senior citizen discount at the cafe, where his cousin washes the dishes. "
baby boomer 49 wrote on Apr 5, 2007 5:46 PM:
" As I have said in the past, please know your facts before you put your foot in your mouth. The construction business is a booming business in NWA. It has nothing to do with Tysons. It has to do with the contractor hiring these immigrants and NOT paying their wages. They are the ones getting rich and not paying the taxes. These workers have made NWA a showplace by the sweat of their brow and the back breaking work they do. Only to be told we are not paying you. Think about it before you say anything else. Know your facts. "
To the eagle who has landed in the middle of a debate wrote on Apr 5, 2007 5:53 PM:
" I wonder if the arrival of Christopher Columbus was legal? How legal was Fernando Cortez' landing in the "New World?" How legal was the landing at Plymouth Rock? I wonder what the orignal Americans thought of all this "legal immigration?" I wonder how legal the immigration was when the Texans entered the land mass that now bears their name? I wonder how legal it was when the first Western settlers crossed into the lands we now call California, right through the lands of a group pigmented people we now call Native Americans? I wonder how legal it was to the Brits when our forefathers decided to take this land from the crown? I wonder how legal it was to force the natives from their homes killing scores in the process? Legal, illegal, it's all a matter of perspective. This little word lies at the heart of the debate.
Give up this "illegal" and legal stuff, it convolutes the real issue: What are we going to do to fix it so that America wins? Do we trash our economy? Do we trash our constitution? Do we teach our children the same hatred taught to us or do we blaze new trails and do something brave and intelligent like stop the YELLING the HATE SPEECH and start the dialogue? Imagine, what a novel concept? "
disappointed wrote on Apr 5, 2007 6:36 PM:
" to those who justify open borders and amnesty to illegals for economic reasons: you are the worst order of hypocrits. you will justify a wrong if it is good for you economically. you are okay with brown people working hard for little at jobs most do not want or will not do if it is good for your pocket. you are todays slave trader and owner. shame on you. we who want secure borders also know that there are positives to a secure border. people will not be dying in the desert, women and girls will not be raped by the coyotes who lead them in here, etc. the amount of illegal drugs would drop dramatically. when you support the illegal immigrant situation as we know it today you do error in the worst way. think it through and stop worrying about your pocket first. "
Watch wrote on Apr 5, 2007 6:47 PM:
" Some idiot politician will vote for free college for illegals. Isn`t it a disgrace, we grew up living by laws earning our way the hard way with nothing free only now to see all the rules have changed.. "
Tspud wrote on Apr 5, 2007 6:53 PM:
" No where have I stated we should incarcerate 11 million people. They were not invited here, where did you come up with that fairy tale? I think that there are more than that here. If caught breaking the law they should be sent to do labor(came here to work)on public projects and then sent back to wherever they came from after being fingerprinted and DNA taken. Next time they get caught on this side of the border breaking the law, it would show their complete disdain for the LAWS of this country, something you seem to gloss over. Really I want another 50 million uneducated, unskilled people to come here. "
You think that you're disappointed wrote on Apr 5, 2007 7:12 PM:
" Hypocrisy, the pot calls the kettle black. Don't for one minute pretend that you care about those people you call "illegals." You care nothing about their interests, your motives for speaking up are entirely rooted in xenophobia so don't try to deny it. I bet that you too have some "freind named Pablo" who you know as a good man, who brings you tamales at Christmas. I am sure that you "care deeply" about "Pablo" and his family who are working in back breaking "sweat shops" just to not have to live in a card board shack. If you cared you would not impugn his character or that of his relatives calling them criminals and degenerates. If you cared about "Pablo" you would ask "Pablo" what he thaought of the whole process and how best to proceed forward in an equitable manner. It isn't Bush who you should blame, he tried to do something about immigration remember, it's the right wing Republicans like Boozeman that you voted for who were not interested in solving the problem so they blocked the presidents proposals. I am sick and tired of your kind screaming about amnesty and open borders you simply convolute the issues by your fear mongering tactics. Do you want to SCREAM AND RANT or do you want to do something about immigration? I suggest that you join the president in asking those do nothings that you voted for to do something novel like ACT. "
disappointed wrote on Apr 5, 2007 7:26 PM:
" so we you believe in the rule of law should just let people like you have it all to do as you please uh? it is not about me caring one way or another about them. it is about our laws and our rights to protect ourselves. you cannot see in my heart so give it up. defeat my logic with superior logic. and for the record, yes i do have brown, black, yellow and red friends, and even a few white. i do not like drug dealers, dopers, rapist,etc and those of that criminal ilk nor do i like KKK, the aryan brotherhood and the other white supremist clowns. i believe we benefit from a secure, not closed, border. "
TO TSPUD wrote on Apr 5, 2007 7:26 PM:
" I know what you think, you've made it all too clear. What fairytale land do you live in to think that you did not invite them here? Of course you did and you have lived a comfortable life because of it. If you really wanted to do something, then you would quit voting for vacous politicians like Womack, Boozeman, Holt, Woods, etc. You would vote for those who actually do something other than present ridiculous proposals that will never see the light of day or that will be challenged indefinately in our courts. You would also go and speak to those Hispanic leaders who you vehemently oppose to see where you can find the middle ground. I know many of these Hispanics and I can assure you that they are waiting for a chance to dialogue. It is your "freinds" who do not return phone calls and do not show up to major events such as the one described in this article. Where was your anti-immigrant poster boy Womack? He was MIA yet again, he has no interest in communicating with anyone who even mildly disagrees with him. He and others like him fail you again and again and you keep lapping up the crumbs they throw your way. Wake up to reality, America is changing and you better get on board or you will be left in the dust mouthing, "Which way did he go, which way did he go? "
disappointed wrote on Apr 5, 2007 7:29 PM:
" besides, the fact that i may or may not be a racist- let me agree for the sake of arguement that i am since that makes you feel justified in your defense of anarchy- does not justify political leaders their lack of effort in doing their sworn duty. ok, i am a racist. we still should secure the border. so now, when an illegal rapes your little girl do not come crying to me. "
disappointed wrote on Apr 5, 2007 7:42 PM:
" bush wants us to look the other way as he allows 12-15 million illegal aliens to stay here that he let in on his watch. i say he is a traitor to all legal citizens, their skin color is not the issue, who live right, pay their taxes and expect him to do his duty. i and those who believe as i do will not let this happen unopposed. "
To Disappointed wrote on Apr 5, 2007 7:48 PM:
" I believe in the rule of law, I also believe in pragmatism and reality. The rule of law is nothing without sensibility to back it up. Who doesn't believe in securing our borders, I certainly do. The "devil" is in the details my friend. If you ask me to sacrifice our state and country's constitution to fight against a perceived enemy, I am going to tell you that I will never sacrifice these precious documents that were paid for by the blood of our nation's forefathers. These documents that you would throw out the window are the only documents that ensure the continuance of this great republic. I know that within the American mind lies the capability to secure our borders while upholding our nations sacred documents. Go back and read the Fourteenth Amendment, somebody thought it important enough write it in our nation's laws so that our country could establish freedom for one and all.
Any law or proposal must first meet the scrutiny of this amendment, then and only then can it be considered. If you are proposing that we deny any person within it's jursidiction the equal protection of the laws, you are seeking to tear down what has made this country great. Every American citizen regardless of color has the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Any proposal that would impinge this right for even one single pigmented American will be met with great opposition. "
To Disappointed wrote on Apr 5, 2007 8:00 PM:
" All the logic in the world couldn't convince you of anything because no matter what you have decided based on emotional reasons that you are right and who can argue. Know that you will be on the losing end of the arguement as your vision of America is rooted firmly in a best forgotten past. American will protect it's economic interests and will uphold it's sacred documents there is nothing that you can do to stop this. There is a statue in Bentonville square that should serve as a constant reminder of just what America truly stands for. You would be well served to learn this.
You need not worry about my children, you should worry yours and perhaps they will all prosper in our great country. "
GO HOME wrote on Apr 5, 2007 9:13 PM:
" Yes American CITIZENS, have these rights, not border jumping Illegal aliens! "
GO HOME wrote on Apr 5, 2007 9:16 PM:
" Check out Mexico's Immigration Laws, are you saying we don't have the right to enforce our immigration laws? They are not nearly as restricting as the hipocrit Mexican governments, it you can call that a government. "
i know wrote on Apr 5, 2007 10:20 PM:
" You can't even call that a government..and if mexicans would stand up to their gov. then maybe Mexico would be a place worth living..it's a beautiful country (some places) Some of the Hispanics say that they came here because mexico is an awful place and they just want a better life for their 25 children, then why do they always fly their flag? It should be a CRIME PUNISHABLE BY IMPRISONMENT to fly the Mexican flag above the United State if you ask me... "
GO HOME wrote on Apr 5, 2007 10:36 PM:
" If they would come here legally, speak English, assimilate to the American way of life and quit flying the Mexican flag I wouldn't be so mad. When they jump the border illegally and then demand rights they have no right to, protest in our streets, and fly their flag it really makes me angry. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES, NOT MEXICO. We are tired of them coming here illegally and disrespecting our customs and laws. "
GO HOME wrote on Apr 6, 2007 1:08 AM:
" What I'm trying to say is if I were to move to another country I would learn and speak their language and respect their Culture and Flag. I would not try to change their country into mine; as a child I was taught that when you are a guest in someone else's house you must be on your best behavior so you will be welcomed. "
TO GO HOME who needs to get some rest wrote on Apr 6, 2007 8:40 AM:
" I know what you are trying to say and I'm glad that you were honest enough to finally say it.
I realize that nothing I say will ever change your mind because your opinions are rooted in emotions and whether someone has a piece of paper that says documented or not, is not the heart of the matter for you. You are simply troubled by this foreign culture that seems to be "invading your space." You may be surprised to hear me say: "There is nothing wrong with feeling like this however as intelligent and capable adults, we have to rise above this space in our head and operate from the pragmatic part of our brain." We could spend hours wishing these people away and ultimately it would be futile, they would still be here and you will still be frustrated. What I'm saying is that we accept reality as it is, not for how we want it to be and start from this vantage point. We can then
take the time to get to know these people, we may discover that these folks are not entirely unlike us, in fact, they have the same hopes, dreams, worries, fears that we all have. Perhaps we then meet at some middle ground and finally get something done instead of YELLING AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS. Take a moment to go to a LULAC meeting, you may be surprised at what you find there. "
Born American wrote on Apr 6, 2007 8:46 AM:
" I will not post to this news service(?) again. It has censored several of my posts that were not derogatory. I have read the guidelines and my posts were within them. It has an anti-immigrant bias and has allowed posts that in some ways should be reported the authorities as they insight violence against undocumented immigrants. I should have known Arkansas would have such a bias. This is not the forum for supporters of immigrant rights to air their views. Maybe the news service should change its name to PRAVDA? "
Eagle wrote on Apr 6, 2007 9:19 AM:
" This is going nowhere! The fact remains, many people from many places come to this country through the proper channels and become productive citizens. I know a Russian who has come here and thrived becoming a nurse and learning our language so fluently, you would not know she was not born here. This is all I ask. If you come to this country, don't sneak in and live your life hoping not to be caught. Go through the process of becoming a citizen and you will have many things to be proud of. The time and diligence it takes to become a citizen of this country will make you proud to fly the AMERICAN FLAG, not the Mexican flag. I am a proud American who believes in the ideals this country was founded on, and I only want others to learn to think this way as well. Thank you. "
Bill wrote on Apr 6, 2007 9:24 AM:
" Here is the bottom line. All this hubris about europeans being trespassers, that Columbus was a trespasser, Aztlan, blah, blah blah. My ancestors came here in compliance with the laws that existed at that time, via Ellis Island. Aztlan is nothing more than a myth. OK? Let me say that again. Aztlan is nothing more than a myth. The United States has a legitimate right/obligation to protect and secure her borders. We are not required to consult with Mexico to see if its okay to secure OUR borders.Our problem is that politicians from The President on down lack the resolve or common sense to do so. Bush is so preoccupied with Iraq, and Pelosi is so occupied with making the Republicans look bad, that all logic has been lost. She has no legitimate business being in the Middle East. It appears that she's become too "full" of herself, and all she and her fellow democrats are doing is creating a divide that we don't need. There are more pressing issues here at home that need to be addressed, such as ILLEGAL immigration. You want to come to the USA? Great! Come here legally. Thats all we ask. "
disappointed wrote on Apr 6, 2007 9:26 AM:
" to "To disappointed": i will keep it simple for you so please pay close attention. you are mixing apples and oranges, just like these studies about immigration do. the arguement in this country, this state and this area is not about legal immigration. all are welcome if they do it properly. the arguement is not about the plus or minuses of legal immigration. when people mix illegals into the equation they muddy the waters. illegal immigration is a plus to a few powerful and rich but a drain to the rest and to the common good. we owe illegals nothing but a boot out of the door. we owe legal immigrants a chance at the American dream. no where in my writings will you find me knoking legal immigrants or wanting to deny them anything our "precious documents" secure. that is stupid. but nothing in those documents say it is okay for political leaders to look the other way when it comes to illegal immigration. do you want leaders to look the other way about murder, robbery, etc? you have an opinion that is based on greed and/or political gain not on what is best for the common good. it is because i see the 10-12 legal citizens of all colors killed in this country on an average every day by illegals that no person can justify to me with logic the allowing into this nation of 12-20 million illegal aliens for economic gain by a few or all. "
To Disappointed wrote on Apr 6, 2007 11:16 AM:
" Thanks for the simplicity, all this nonsense gets oh so confusing. My misguided friend, you absoultely do owe every human being on the face of this planet something and that is respect, keep bucking it and see what happens. Furthermore any person in this country regardless of how he got here is subject to the US Consititution, put your boot down and put on your gentlemnan's shoes. You may not like it but this is how America works. I suppose you should have learned this in grade school civics but it is never to late to learn.
You keep clamouring on about "illegal this and "illegal" that and you are missing the realities that are staring you in the face. Take off your rose colored glasses for a moment, squint a little and adjust your vision; the world that will open up to you may at first appear hazy but eventually the fog wil clear. We all have ideals and then there is that "nasty little thing" called reality. It is reality that I am concerned with. Immigration, regardless of status has been clearly shown to benefit our economy and if you haven't learned by now that money is the "mother's milk of politics" than you have some learning to do. Do you think the feds will ever let our economy be compromised just so the uneducated masses can be placated? Think again my naive freind. Greed or survival, you judge? "
The Eagle Has Left the Building wrote on Apr 6, 2007 11:25 AM:
" BLAA, BLAA is right. There's a lot of BlAA going on here. Most of it is coming from your direction.
You keep repeated the same tired cliches about flags and disrespect and BLAA, BLAA, BLAA. You forget that just a few short years ago Americans tired of dying in someone elses war were burning flags by the dozens. I have yet to see a single Hispanic in America burn an American flag. Furthermore waving the flag of ones ancestry is a tried and true American tradition, we do it at parades in every city USA, every year, all the time. So stop it with the tired the nonsense already. Go back and re-read what was said to GO HOME who needs rest. I too am a very proud American. "
ToToFullofBill wrote on Apr 6, 2007 3:43 PM:
" No, my "friend" it is much, much more than "whether someone has a piece of paper that says documented or not". THAT is the difference between you and me. You see, THAT little piece of paper is what makes me an AMERICAN. That little piece is what allows me to be a citizen of the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. You and all of your pro-illegal, open-border zealots obviously do not care one flip for that "little piece of paper" that so, so many of our ancestors fought and died for. You are a disgrace. I really don't think I would be welcome at one of your your little LULAC pinata-stompin' fiestas. You see, I would spoil the party by speaking the truth and YOU CANNOT HANDLE IT. Immigrants contribute in all ways to our Country - economically, socially, and culturally. ILLEGAL ALIENS are criminals from the moment they CHOOSE to cross our borders / overstay their visa, etc. We are raised to follow the laws and rules of our community, State and our Country, and if we do not there are consequences. Well guess what? Just because you don't like the rules, we are not going to let you change them mid-game to give one "team" the advantage. Racist, xenophobic - whatever you wish to call me that's just fine. You see, what is much much worse is CHEATERS AND LIARS ie ILLEGAL ALIENS. "
Most companies take wrote on Apr 6, 2007 5:47 PM:
" it upon themselves (like they work for the government or something)to withhold taxes when you voluntarily fill out a W-4, and the Illegal immigrants never file to get it back. You really think the government is going to stop that free money? "
disappointed wrote on Apr 6, 2007 6:12 PM:
" you speak of "reality" as if only you have a corner on the market. you have proposed nothing to solve the issue of illegal aliens except to let them all in. i do hear the arguement that some make about some of the idiots in dc wanting it one way but talking another and we the common man falling for it. the litmus test for me for some time now has been where does one stand on the issue of illegal aliens, not the war, not abortion, not the economy, stem cell research and whatever. without a secure border the rest is of little value to a nation that wants to maintain itself. actually, it would be better said that without a secure border the rest is of little value to the dominant culture that wants to remain in power. this is really the issue, i am part of the dominant culture and to be candid i do not want to lose that position to a people that have no right to what is mine and are being given it by our own cowardly leaders and that for their own economic gain. i know that sounds like racism to some and i could care less. want some reality? here is some, at some point this invasion by illegals and those who allow it will cause bloodshed and i fear that for this grand country. for we who belong here, everything, for those who do not,nothing. that is reality! "
disappointed wrote on Apr 6, 2007 6:36 PM:
" those who support open borders and amnesty, do you also support bigamy, podophilia, incest, wife beating, tax evasion and other such issues that one could argue are detrimental to an orderly society and its common good? why have laws? oh, i can hear you now, one is not of the same seriousness of the other. true, but the issue is we the legal citizens have a right to a secure country and to insist that those here and those coming here play by the laws of the land. the issue is one of sovereignty. now there is a good word. try learning what it means and the reason it is important to us all. "
To Full of Bill wrote on Apr 6, 2007 6:52 PM:
" I answered your garbage but apparently you have a friend at the Morning News. Of course he left your hate filled diatribes on this blog, it's good drama. It's quite alright, it's not the first time and will not be the last. I suspect that the truth is we are falling right into thier hands; fighting like a bunch of kids. I won't re-write my comments to you I believe that I have said enough. You "Americans" go on and have a Happy Easter I'm done trying to tell you that a peice of paper will never make you an American. No worries, we'll see each other soon enough in some court room or another; until then, Viva America! "
gaving a piece of paper wrote on Apr 6, 2007 7:54 PM:
" does make you an American. It just doesn't mean that you will be a good one. Same concept goes for any certificate or document. Just because you have a drivers license, doesn't make you a good driver...etc. I don't understand what all your hate is about. Immigration is great! What is wrong with asking those that want to immigrate to America to go about it the legal way? "
Bill wrote on Apr 6, 2007 7:57 PM:
" As I predicted, I got "yanked" in record time. Seems we are not allowed to say the truth, or echo the feelings of America because it isn't "Pc". It's okay for the pro-illegals and Mexicans to denegrate us, but God forbid, we form an opinion. You want to come here? Do it the right way. I not, stay home and drop your baby's there. Weve had enough. Ever hear of a condom? "
Eagle wrote on Apr 6, 2007 10:03 PM:
" Please learn to proof your comments before posting. The lack of grammar in your writing is making me doubt your intelligence and not care about your opinion of my comments. "
GO HOME wrote on Apr 6, 2007 10:14 PM:
" To whoever keeps telling me I need to get some rest, DO NOT try to put words in my mouth, or tell me you know how I feel, I am operating from the pragmatic, the definition of which is--concerned with practical values and consequences, part of my brain. I'm being practical when I say that we must obey ALL of the laws of this country or NONE of them mean squat; I know the consequences of what is happening to this country because of Illegal Aleins, I live it EVERYDAY. I would just bet that you don't have to really deal with any of the consequences because you are in the upper class when it comes to your status, or you are one of those lucky people whose job or family and friends have not yet been affected by the crisis of Illegal Aliens in this country. Lucky you! Where I work is now 87% Hispanic, legal and illegal, my wages have been so depressed by them that I may lose my home this year. You see, the .30 raise I get every year barely covers the rise in my health insurance, which goes up every year because the Illegal Aliens don't pay for their health care, I am doing that for them. "
GO HOME wrote on Apr 6, 2007 10:29 PM:
" Con't.-- And as for getting to know these people, I have quite a few Hispanic friends, I work with them everyday, and the legal citizens among them are just as upset as I am. You see they are citizens and have been here long enough to have to pay all the bills I do and are tired of not having enough to pay them also. The Legal Immigrants pay Insurance and taxes just like I do and they are being kept down by illegal aliens also. And as far as LULAC, you talk about racism, I have never heard so much racist propaganda in my life as I have heard come out of their mouths. I have nothing against people who come here legally and pay their own way. However; I am tired of paying for their anchor babies through Medicaid, for their food through our welfare and other public assistance programs, and their health care, through higher prices to me because they don't pay their hospital bills. "
GO HOME wrote on Apr 6, 2007 10:45 PM:
" Sorry, my computer is acting up, my last two posts are reversed and most of it got cut off. I have rebooted let me try again. My Legal Immigrant friends and I are tired of paying for the Illegal Alien anchor babies through Medicaid, paying for their food through public assitance programs meant for Legal Americans, paying for their health care through the rise in our health insurance every year, because illegal aliens will not pay their hospital bills. We do not want the problem that California has, the closing of hospitals and the gang wars and drug dealers are not welcome here. We have enough criminals of our own, we do not need millions of criminals from south of the border and elsewhere. "
GO HOME wrote on Apr 6, 2007 11:58 PM:
" We're tired of being mutilated and killed in car accidents by drunks that should not even be in this country, and on top of that our car insurance has to foot the bill for car repair and medical expenses because these illegal aliens do not have car insurance. "
disappointed wrote on Apr 7, 2007 12:37 AM:
" to those who think me a racist because i want the borders closed and the iilegals sent home i dare you to do this- go to the fox news channel internet service and lookat immigration and see the 031607 article about the irish president visiting pres bush about st pats day. seems the irish leader supports bush's amnesty plan. why? because he says there are some 50,000 to 70,000 irish here illegally. know what i say to that? find those white skinned devils and send them home. what do you open borders and amnesty crowd say to the issue of irish illegals? should they be sent home or allowed to stay or do you have an agenda to re-do this country with the dominant culture being that of the brown man? i can hardly wait to read your replies. "
To GO Home wrote on Apr 7, 2007 8:52 AM:
" There it goes again, you have Hispanic "friends" and you're wanting to help them by impugning there character and characterizing them as "victims" just like you. Go get another job, one that is better paying, you assume I'm upper class and that I'm immune to troubles. I'm just as prone to life's circumstances as the next guy however I understand that I have the ability to make my own fortune, we all do. You sound like an intelligent person, now stop relegating yourself to a miserable job that you hate and can't seem to make enough money at it. Go start a business like some of those penniless immigrants did. They now find themselves in a position where they don't have to rail against those who have just because they do not. Your wages are not depressed, Americans make more money then the rest of the world by far. Did you not see the latest unemployement figures, they dropped. Do you think that wages can be depressed when there is a shortage of workers? One of things that I hear more often than anything else is about the shortage of quality workers. Are you a quality worker or do you sit around complaining to your employers about all those "Mexicans" depressing your wages? Stand out from the crowd and work harder than most, this is the advice I give my young relatives. They have and they are successful because of it. You can to. "
To Jessica wrote on Apr 7, 2007 9:10 AM:
" I alway thought hard working people were prosperous. So if Mexicans are so hard working, Mexico would be prosperous?
Hispanic women have three times the rate of unwed mothers as whites, does that mean they have Christian values? "
To Thank God wrote on Apr 7, 2007 9:18 AM:
" What are you talking about. The businesses that exploit cheap illegal alien labor do not pass the savings onto us. Hotels who have the lowest labor cost still charge high rates. This is called corporate greed. On the other hand we have less money to spend because of the depressed wages, and we are subsidizing the illegal through our tax dollars. We lose. The corporations gain. We will end up economically like Mexico with no middle class, just rich and poor. "
IguessSpringdaleisracisttoo wrote on Apr 7, 2007 10:56 AM:
" hmmm....well, I guess Springdale officials can now be accused of being racist too, eh? The Chief of Police will ask the City Council Tuesday night for permission to ask to be a part of the same program that we racists in Rogers have asked for....seems they are afraid that the illegals that are moving away from Rogers are moving to Springdale - imagine that - illegals in the Land of Chicken.....way to go, Springdale. Now let's get Washington County and Benton County on-board and we'll start to eliminate our cities of the 51% of the study's participants!!!! Now I look forward to all of the editorials against Springdale, the cartoons against Springdale, the cries of racism against Springdale, etc - everything Mayor Womack and the folks of Rogers have had to endure for the past few months. Mind you, this is a LEGAL program, offered by the Federal government....the only ones that should be afraid of it are the illegals - perhaps they will get the message, finally, that they need to go home to their own Country and effect the changes they desire there...not here. "
To The "Complainer" Who Needs to Thank God wrote on Apr 7, 2007 10:59 AM:
" What are you talking about, I spend 60% of my life in hotels; what high rates? Your light skinned amigos can readily stay at a Best Western, Red Roof Inn, Comfort Inn, etc., all day long for under $70.00. There are thousands of clean comfortable hotels and motels, where one can stay for under $50.00; what are you looking for, free?
Have you eaten at Denny's or anyone of these local cafe's lately? Are you complaining that $3 to 5$ is too much for a meal? You can always go to a fastfood joint and eat for around $3 if $5 is too much for you. In fact you can even get it cheaper when you ask for the senior citizen discount, student discount, or AAA discount or you can always use the coupons. Have you went shopping lately? You can buy goods cheaper than ever. The jacket that once used to cost me $50, I can now buy for half that.
What are you talking about? This country has the largest middle class in the world. Corporations are not the only ones who gain, we gain too. If you stayed away from those hate perpetrating racist websites you might actually begin to see America for what it really is; the immigrants you deride can readily see that America is the land of opportunity or they wouldn't come here in the first place. Wake up American, your perpesctive is clouding your reasoning. "
To iguessSpringdaleisracisttoo wrote on Apr 7, 2007 11:17 AM:
" Not so fast cowboy, you cannot compare what is going on in Springdale to what has gone on in Rogers. Did you not read the article? One city solicited the involvement of its citizens who may be inadvertently impacted and the other city used lies to justify their racist mentality. Furthermore Springdale is seeking to implement the program where it may serve as an additional tool at the detention level and not grant broad powers to a bunch of Cowboy cops who would soon drag their city into a needless lawsuit. 287(g) is tiny little very expensive Band-Aid that will do nothing to stop immigration. Springdale, unlike Rogers is smart enough to recognize this, so they have behaved in a manner that is completely above board and have the cooperation of the Hispanic community who also don't want criminals roaming their neighborhoods. Take off those fantasy goggles that you have on, criminals don't have the sense to get the message that their behavior is unacceptable to society, that's why they keep committing their idiot crimes. Our jails and prisons are full of such people who do not get it. Get ready and open up that pocket book of yours, your little program is getting ready to cost you and while you're at it, keep your handkerchief nearby, because you will be using to wipe away the tears you'll be shedding as you see those "rascally illegals" keep streaming in your little Southern piece of America. You've been warned. "
everyday joe wrote on Apr 7, 2007 11:25 AM:
" Ive been reading through this and it amazes me the levels everyone is trying to go to to prove a point. ie: articles here, studies there etc... I live in nor, california and work for a steel company. If you all want to get real try making a living in an increasing economy working for a company who has an 80 percent hispanic work force that is willing to work for substandard wages because they can.2-3 families per house works well doesnt it? Half the employees are stoned on pot or cocaine half the time and they make more money than their white or filipino counterparts. Try supporting a family under these circumstances, and youll realize something needs to be done to stop this madness "
Bill wrote on Apr 7, 2007 3:58 PM:
" Send all illegals back home, whether they be Irish, Mexican or whatever. Send 'em packing. They broke the law . And I'm three quarters Irish, and I don't care. Illegal? Buh-bye. That simple. We need to enforce Border Inregrity. Period. Argument ends here. "
Bill wrote on Apr 7, 2007 4:20 PM:
" I've read all these post's. I haven't read so much as one who would be called a " Racist" or "Bigot". Where I live, we have a Mexican woman who -- each day --brings plates of Mexican food.She's legal, too. Now, I'm not talking "Roach Coach" side of the road tomain. I'm talking authentic. Her Chili's will bring tears to your eyes. She is an icon, and I love her dearly.. She won't take money. You know what? She's against uncontrolled immigration, too. I've made enough post's here where I have been kicked off and censored -- for good reason -- If I'm taking the time to say illegal immigration is wrong, then it is way wrong. "
DJ wrote on Apr 7, 2007 5:20 PM:
" To Jokos
Great response to Jessica.you hit the nail on the head.I couldn't have said it better.I' against illegal immigration and tried of what it is doing to this country and it's citizens and the citizens who fell on hard times.Again,Great Response. "
DJ wrote on Apr 7, 2007 5:45 PM:
" To Thank God,
It's not about liking or diliking someone.It's about LEGAL IMMIGRATION.Where tired of people coming to this country ILLEGALLY,not waiting their turn to become LEGAL CITIZENS.Get your facts straight.This country cannot handle such a high influx of people.Go to www.prisonplanet.com,important info.section and pull up the 13 minute video called Immigration by the Numbers. Go read the 14 AMENDENT,it talks about the government protecting this country from an invasion.That's what is really going on.Two more articles to read "Immigration's New Lawless America" by Frosty Wooldridge and "Free Immigration or Invasion" by Micheal Gaddy.Let me give you some insight about those articles.They talk about groups like MEChA and LaRaza wanting to take over this country.Do you want to talk about hate,these groups are full of hate.Look at what's going on around the country.Hospitals closing down,overcrowding of our schools,lose of employment,lose of employment for the kids coming out of school,gang violence,you name it.you need to stop spewing that poison.Go educate yourself before you speak,get your facts straight.have a good day "
legalatina wrote on Apr 8, 2007 12:09 AM:
" Most illegal aliens from Mexico have on average a 3rd grade education. Compulsory education in Mexico is only up to sixth grade. These people can't go to college here or anywhere else for that matter. Certainly, no illegal alien student should be allowed access to our public colleges/universities anyway. "
Bill wrote on Apr 8, 2007 7:59 AM:
" First; Happy Easter to you all. I mean that. Have a wonderful and safe holiday. Second; I got up, got the paper, put the coffee on, let the cat outside, turned the TV on, and I'm treated to THOUSANDS marching in Los Angeles "DEMANDING" amnesty! What unmitigated hubris! Demanding "rights" that as squatters and trespassers, they aren't entitled to. How about we all get together and take over the streets and demand that we shouldn't have to pay taxes to subsidize their arrogance? They haven't got the guts to march in Mexico, but they'll do it here. Guess they shot themselves in the foot again. People do remember, and this, too, will come back and bite them. "
Wesley Franklin wrote on Apr 8, 2007 12:37 PM:
" Can you handle a 911 in your area?
Food For Thought:
"A LINE IN THE SAND" Iraq's Learn Spanish Before Crossing to America!
Senator Mc Caul's Website
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/
"
To Bill wrote on Apr 8, 2007 12:53 PM:
" Happy Easter to you as well, I hope you enjoy your day surrounded by those who you care about and those who care about you. Let's not jump to any conclusions; none of us can know by a simple glance, how many undocumented protesters were in the crowd. Brown citizens and or documented residents have the right to march in the streets and it does not bother me when citizens exercise their rights. Many of these citizen and or documented protesters are as frustrated as the next guy at the governments failure to fix these immigration problems. There are significant percentages, which have been in the immigration pipeline for years and they are frustrated with the sudden soaring costs of their petition. Were there some undocumented protesters in the crowd, statistically probably, however let's not assume what we cannot possibly know. I can guarantee you that most of the undocumented immigrants were too busy working to roam the streets in protest. Enjoy your day. "
To Eagle wrote on Apr 8, 2007 6:08 PM:
" Regarding your statement, "The people who came to this country over the generations that made it a 'melting pot' did so legally by going through the proper channels."
Most who came here over the generations did not "do so legally by coming through the proper channels," because there WERE no "proper channels." The first immigration law was not passed until 1882, and it only restricted immigration by the Chinese. An unofficial policy in 1907 targeted the Japanese but the first "quota" law did not take effect until 1929, and it didn't apply to Latin America. So if those "melting pot" generations came here before those laws took effect, yes, they did come "legally," but not because they were law-abiding enough to apply properly, but rather, because there were no "proper channels" to go through.
But I would be willing to bet that if there HAD been "proper channels" and laws and forms -- and if those laws had been as complex as today's; and if those "channels" had been overseen by a bureaucracy as unwieldy, incompetent and unnavigable as USCIS; and if the forms had taken YEARS to process as they often do today, then those Europeans who flocked here by the millions after the Irish potato famine or the failed German revolution would have done exactly the same as today's immigrants. They would have looked at their children, seen the desperate economic situation they were in, and they would have come, papers or no. "
legalatina wrote on Apr 9, 2007 5:40 AM:
" Most Americans of Hispanic heritage are OPPOSED to ILLEGAL immigration. The radical, left-wing ethnic hustling groups like La RAZA, MECHA, ACLU etc. don't want people to know that. It's never been about race, it's about the law and respecting the millions of people who have played by the rules. REwarding amnesty, a path to citizenship, in-state college tuition, social security benefits to cheaters, liars and thieves is a slap in the face to all of us who came here honorably and by meeting all legal requirements. SI SE PUEDE....BUILD THE FENCE. SI SE PUEDE...ENFORCE THE LAW. SI SE PUEDE....REPORT ALL SUSPECTED ILLEGAL ALIENS TO DHS-ICE. "
ToTo iguessSpringdaleisracisttoo wrote on Apr 9, 2007 8:37 AM:
" You know, "cowboy", I don't recall electing the hispanic community to represent me....no, I and many others, voted for Mayor Womack to represent me and my wishes within my city, not an unelected group of people who are only interested in what is best for "their" community. "One city solicited the involvement of its citizens who may be inadvertently impacted and the other city used lies to justify their racist mentality" - give me a break. You see, you and your pro-illegals have for too long been able to silence American's with your threats of lawsuits for what "might happen", and your cries of racism. Well, guess what? American's are TIRED of it. So whether or not Rogers is approved for this program, many other communities around our Country are applying for the same thing. So perhaps, it's not just us Southerners who racist, eh? You see, we WILL take back our community's, one at a time, and you and your ACLU, MALDEF, LULAC don't have enough money or influence to stop it anymore. Again, Southerners and Americans are very slow to anger, and we are very compassionate people. However, our patience has been maxed out with this issue. We have been taken advantage of, again and again. By our government, by our "business leaders", and by persons whose interests are best served by having millions of another Country's citizens living amongst us - "illegitimate Americans". "
ToTo iguessSpringdaleisracisttoo wrote on Apr 9, 2007 8:51 AM:
" "287(g) is tiny little very expensive Band-Aid that will do nothing to stop immigration. Springdale, unlike Rogers is smart enough to recognize this, so they have behaved in a manner that is completely above board and have the cooperation of the Hispanic community who also don't want criminals roaming their neighborhoods" - I have 2 comments. If the 287 program is such a tiny little program that will do nothing to stop immigration, why are you and all of the pro-illegals so afraid of it? Because you know it can be a VERY effective tool and once again, anything that might be effective is hysterically labeled "racist". And your other statement about having the cooperation of the hispanic community - give me a break unless you also think our police depts. should have the cooperation of the gangs and drug dealers before they implement any effectiving policing of those activities as well. You see, all are, as defined by law, lawbreakers. "
Next..... wrote on Apr 9, 2007 3:53 PM:
" From reading the article I'm willing to bet that the next "great" idea coming down the pike will be for the taxpayers to help pay for the poor oppressed Hispanics to go to college. "
DJ wrote on Apr 9, 2007 6:24 PM:
" To Next
The children of ILLEGAL ALIEN parents get lower tuition then the United States Citizen gets.It's already happening.
"
Do not wrote on Apr 9, 2007 10:37 PM:
" buy from businesses who hire illegals. Buy only American made products. It does make a difference. It is the only way we can win. "
Don't buy wrote on Apr 9, 2007 10:40 PM:
" anything from companies that employee illegal aliens. Buy only products made in the U.S.A. It does make a difference. Let's show big business and politicians we can and will take back our country. "
Boss Hog wrote on Apr 9, 2007 11:42 PM:
" Mexicans should go back to their country, we have to build new schools because the schools are over crowded,
and we need to hire more teachers and they should not be taking all of the old folks foodstamps and medicare!
and they should have to learn to speak English "
texas02 wrote on Apr 10, 2007 11:42 AM:
" Illegal Immigrants CAN'T apply for welfare or Medicaid because they dont have a valid ss number.12% of their check go to pay taxes they never get back, do the math..there's a problem to solve and the inability of the goverment to do that is causing a lot of hate.Coming legally is easy to say but really really hard to do for a educated person, more for an uneducated one. "
2DJ from Next wrote on Apr 10, 2007 3:45 PM:
" I was unaware that they were already getting lower tuition. It makes me wonder why I work hard every day to give my caucasian children a chance at an education that I will have to pay dearly for out of my own pocket. How can it be that children born here have less of an opportunity than children of illegals have in this country to go to college? I'm at the point where I want to throw my hands up and run down the street screaming!! "
totexas02 wrote on Apr 10, 2007 4:15 PM:
" "Illegal Immigrants CAN'T apply for welfare or Medicaid because they dont have a valid ss number.12% of their check go to pay taxes they never get back" - I'm so tired of hearing this - ask any school employee all of the freebies illegals actually do receive - free breakfast/lunch, section 8 housing, WIC - and DON'T tell me they don't get their taxes back. You see, alot of illegals go ahead and file their taxes, using an ITIN number - they do this because it will help them when it's time to apply for their green card. In most of these cases, due to the amount of dependents and their low salaries, they receive Earned Income Credit - which means they receive back MORE than they paid in - just the same as any other low-wage worker who gets the EIC. Doesn't that just make every tax-paying American happy. Oh yeah, I guess why I'm so sensivite to this issue is that I just picked up my tax forms from my accountant....guess what? I have already paid in over $20,000 this year between Fed and State, and guess what??? I STILL OWE OVER $8,000. So don't worry, poor little illegals. I'll go ahead and send in the taxes required to support you and your 50 children. "
A friend wrote on Apr 10, 2007 6:58 PM:
" of mine showed me the list of school supplies that her child was requested to bring at the beginning of the school year. I asked her why they were being asked to bring so many of the same supply...3 pkg. of no. 2 pencils, 6 notebooks, 5 tubes of glue etc...., she said, "Why do you think?, so all the illegal alien's kids can get theirs for free." "
Our government wrote on Apr 10, 2007 7:06 PM:
" will do anything to help Illegal Aliens at the expense of our Elderly, who can't
afford to eat if they buy their medication, our soldier's families don't have enough to live on but our govermentis giving the illegals housing, food stamps, utility vouchers, welfare; all coming out of the taxpayers pocket. The government is making all of the profits of so called "cheap labor" and we the citizens are paying the bills for them. "
2 totexas02 wrote on Apr 12, 2007 1:51 PM:
" Your information is false. Illegal hispanic females that are pregnant ARE allowed to appy for temporary pregnancy medicaid. This form of medicaid pays for all expenses during the pregnacny and the delivery. The reason that they qualify for this is because the unborn child will be an American citizen. "
What? wrote on Apr 12, 2007 1:54 PM:
" Why does the late entry have "December 31,1969" as the post time? Any computer people out there? "
I just read wrote on Apr 12, 2007 5:57 PM:
" on Fox News that the jobless claims jumped by 19,000 last week. The total number of unemployed still drawing benefits after the initial week of aid rose by 38,000 to a total 2.53 million. Why are so many people unemployed if there are all these jobs that no one will do? Citigroup is laying off 7000 workers so they can move the jobs to a lower paying market. When will it be you losing your job? "
I was wrong wrote on Apr 12, 2007 9:08 PM:
" about Citigroup it was 17,000 jobs, not 7000; thats a lot of people without a job so the rich can get richer. "
D wrote on Apr 13, 2007 5:42 PM:
" To I Was Wrong
More American Citizens out of workand we keep outsourcing jobs that the qualified unemployed citizens can do.People want open borders and say outsourcing is good for the country,their out of their minds. "
DJ wrote on Apr 13, 2007 5:44 PM:
" Citibank,more jobs lost probably to out sourcing.More American Citizens Unemployed "
DJ wrote on Apr 13, 2007 6:34 PM:
" To Everybody
Its useless to deport ILLEGALS unless there is a border fence.Lets all donate to the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.so they can continue to build the border fence.Help stop the ILLEGAL INVASION now. "
to ToTexas02 wrote on Apr 14, 2007 12:56 PM:
" Your information about illegals filing using ITINs and "getting back more than they paid" in taxes is also false. Check out the IRS rules at http://www.irs.gov/publications/p596/ch01.html#d0e494 which clearly say "You cannot get the EIC if, instead of an SSN, you (or your spouse, if filing a joint return) have an individual taxpayer identification number (ITIN). ITINs are issued by the Internal Revenue Service to noncitizens who cannot get an SSN. child.) If you file with an ITIN you CANNOT get Earned Income credit." Check out your facts before you post things that are patently false, and simply inflammatory. "
DJ wrote on Apr 18, 2007 8:41 PM:
" To Go Home
Well said.people don't want to hear,see or speak the truth.Most people want to walk around like nothing is wrong.Those people may open their eyes up when it starts to effect their,if it isn't to late already.Most people just want to appease these people.Their afraid to speak up because they don't want to be called racist. "
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JESSICA wrote on Apr 4, 2007 11:34 PM: