Lack Of Doctors Leaves Children In Limbo

Thousands Qualify For Free Health Care But Can't Find Participating Pediatricians

Last updated Monday, November 26, 2007 10:09 AM CST in News

By Doug Thompson
The Morning News

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    Editor's note: This is the second in a three-part series examining the lack of doctors in Northwest Arkansas and its impact on the residents, especially the young, old and disabled.

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    Coming Tuesday: Elderly need the most care, but the poor elderly find few doctors willing to treat them.

    SPRINGDALE -- David Kibin persisted. He called for two months. He visited six or seven times a week.

    "You'd call a clinic and get a voice automated number. You don't talk to an operator," he said. "When you do get in touch with somebody, they ask if you can hold. Then the line cuts off. Can you hold, touch with somebody. The line cuts off."

    Then came the paperwork.

    "They wanted everything: proof of where I live, my income, where I was working, phone number and references. References -- for health care? Then there was proof of birth in the U.S. and that I had Social Security."

    Then came the waiting for an answer to the applications.

    "It was two months of calling and asking and going over to offices six or seven days a week," Kibin said. "Finally, when you'd applied, you'd ask when you'd get your care. 'Next week.' You'd go back. 'Next week.' It was a broken record."

    Kibin persevered. Both of his children are now eligible for ArKids First, the health care program for children in working, low-income families.

    That leaves an estimated 7,000 eligible but unenrolled kids left in Washington and Benton counties. The bottleneck is getting a primary care doctor who takes the Medicaid program, Kibin said. That's the first step to getting enrolled.

    "We think it's more than that, but we rounded down," said Cambre Horne-Brooks, director of development for the Community Clinic of Saint Francis House. The clinic in Springdale provides health care to those who can least afford it.

    "Our best estimate from the numbers given to us by the state is that there's 3,400 in Washington County and 3,700 in Benton County," Horne-Brooks said.

    A patient must have a primary care physician to join ArKids, which covers children whose family income is too high to qualify for state-administered Medicaid, but still within 200 percent of poverty and have no health benefits provided by their parents' jobs.

    Those 7,000 children still waiting are a result of the biggest health care problem in Northwest Arkansas, said Kathy Grisham, community clinic director: "There aren't enough doctors."

    Larry Shackelford is executive director of Medical Associates of Northwest Arkansas. The physicians' group represents about 75 doctors in the region. While the area needs more doctors -- like most of the rest of the United States -- the shortage for ArKids and other public health programs would be greatly relieved by more doctors taking a greater share of those patients.

    "The problem is that a level 3 office visit, which is a middle-of-the-road office visit, is reimbursed at the rate of $36 for a Medicaid patient, $54 for a Medicare patient and around $68 for a private pay patient," Shackelford said. Other medical procedures are priced in the same proportions, he said.

    "You've got to have a viable rate of return to stay in business," Shackelford said. "If somebody puts a cap on the number of Medicare or Medicaid patients, it makes it a greater burden for everyone else."

    Difficulty getting to a primary care doctor also increases the problem of patients who don't get care until absolutely necessary, Shackelford said.

    "You don't have to have a primary care provider if you're in the emergency room," he said.

    "You could make an argument that it costs more to treat people at the emergency room than it would to insure them and provide check-ups and preventative treatment," he said.

    The Medicare program divides the country into more than 100 areas and has different reimbursement rates for each of those areas, Shackelford said. Arkansas is "next to last, with only Puerto Rico behind us, in Medicare reimbursement," he said. Medicaid reimbursement is set at a percentage of Medicare reimbursement for the same procedure, at discounts 30 to 40 percent lower.

    The situation is at risk of getting much, much worse, Shackelford said. The funding of child health insurance programs is currently subject to a budget battle between the White House and Congress. Within that legislation is a provision to renew current reimbursement rates for all Medicare payments, he said.

    Unless that provision is passed, all Medicare payments for medical procedures will be cut 9.9 percent, Shackelford said. Medicaid payments, based on Medicare rates, will be reduced too.

    Beyond primary care, Children's Hospital in Little Rock has recently opened a clinic in Lowell and brings specialists to it on a regular basis, said Dr. Charles Ball of Northwest Arkansas Pediatric Clinic. This is a very big improvement, he said.

    Yet Grisham said: "You have to have a primary care physician to get referred to specialists. That's the key."

    Kibin knows how hard it can be to get a pediatrician to accept ArKids patients. He persisted because he wanted health coverage for his children and greater financial security for his family. Kibin takes home $255 a week, he said, working in the sanitation division at Georges Inc., a poultry company.

    His son, Louis, age 2 years, and daughter, Anglynn, age 1, were enrolled by early November -- just before Anglynn caught what appears to be a cold.

    "Now we know that if something happens we can cover the bill," he said.

    "Wherever you go to get health care, people ask for proof of insurance," he said. "That's the first thing they ask."

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    cybertech wrote on Nov 26, 2007 5:10 AM:

    " What I find kind of tragic among many things is that some of those bumbling idiots in Washington actually think that Universal Health Care will fix this type of situation when in fact it wont because it will only add to the burden of overtaxing the already short staff of doctors. Also having a primary care physician will not guarantee you referral to specialists when needed. I know this first hand as I have needed to be able to see neurologists and others because some of the problems I have are beyond the scope of a GP and there are very few if any neurologists that allow walk ins. Now as for those free clinics, well I had the experience of the automated line, gave them all the info and nothing. Tried calling again and the process begins all over again and then nothing. Tried going down there and they tell me you have to call for an appointed and guess what you get? Yep that automated line that gets you nowhere. Contd....... "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 26, 2007 5:17 AM:

    " Contd...... Also in question is the quality of some of the doctors out there. I say this because there is one, who's name I will not mention, that almost cost me my life!!!!! To top that off her misdiagnoses of Bronchitis when I had full blown double lower lobe pneumonia cost me a visit to the ER and had I continued her treatment for another 24 hours I would have been DEAD!! The ER bill cost me $2,290 due to no insurance, and before anyone says a thing, I paid that bill in full! The previous doctor, the one that misdiagnosed the problem, had the audacity, after I explained to her office what had transpired and the resulting diagnosis, to demand payment of the bill of $58.00 that I still owed through her office, to which I replied that she was lucky that I didnt file a malpractice suit against her and to take the bill and wipe a certain part of her anatomy with it. Never heard about it again...... So this begs to question the quality of doctors and nurses out there as well as the quantity......Contd..... "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 26, 2007 5:24 AM:

    " Contd...... This along with the problems of overpriced insurance premiums, and underpayment by medicare and medicaid, the shortage and quality of medical staff, ect.... is indication of a badly broken system that needs to be fixed badly, and I am here to tell you the Universal Health Care is NOT going to do it! Another problem is funding medical legislation with unstable funding bases such as taxes from tobacco. Now I will say that in spite of all of this we still have one of the best health care systems in the world on many levels. One could write a novel on the problems, fiasco's and possible fixes! "

    sodapop wrote on Nov 26, 2007 6:42 AM:

    " You make a good argument for government interference. "

    Tspud wrote on Nov 26, 2007 8:35 AM:

    " If they are giving out free cheese burgers at McDonalds there will be a line. When they start giving out free MRI's there will be a line and you will be at the back of it waiting to see Dr. Quackenstein that the government program tells you to see. Universal Health will be so wonderful. People will opt out or do they like they do now in public and private schools. Pay the tax to support the school but pay again to the private school. Do I as an employer get to drop the insurance on my employees since government is now their new savior? My bet is that I will be forced to keep the insurance AND pay for others as well and also pay from my personal taxes as well. "

    melter wrote on Nov 26, 2007 10:34 AM:

    " This is an extremely complex problem that cannot be fully discussed at this sight, however, for Rogers, it seems to me that the shortage and quality has been drastically affected by the mercy "SYSTEM" Their methods of management imposes many restrictions on our doctors that make it difficult for them to practice quality medicine, in addition, they impose regulation that make it very unfavorable for doctors to practice privately and still have priveleges at "THEIR" hospital. So.....they go elsewhere. It seems this is more true for G.P.s and Interal Medicine Doc.s, geriatricians and pediatricians. The subspecialists cardiology, neurology, etc. don't seem to have it quite so rough because the stereotype is that specialists make for a great system. But the fact remains that it begins with entry level care, such as maintenance and preventative medicine. If they continue to require patient quotas--quantity over quality--Dr.s will continue to go elsewhere and patients will continue holding the short end of the stick. I know nwa is the only sufferers of this type of management, and that the insurance company's and the government complicate matters the most, but perhaps if we petition mercy from the sisters of mercy.......sometimes it is best to put a little air in the tire you have, while you wait for them to recreate the wheel. "

    melter wrote on Nov 26, 2007 10:36 AM:

    " nwa is NOT the only one's suffering. sorry- "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 26, 2007 10:44 AM:

    " Sodapop, On the contrary I am against "Government Ran" health care, however the problem is that you cant get the Insurance Companies, Pharmaceutical Companies, Doctors Offices, Hospitals, ect.. to do anything about it. So while I am against a Universal Health Care System where they tell you the doctors that you can and can not see, much like many insurance programs, especially medicare and medicaid, I do believe that the government, local, state, and federal, can help with the problem with out being totally in charge of it and while there is not enough space here to list the things that might help, suffice it to say there are ways that they can without it turning into a Universal System. I guarantee you manufacturing costs of equipment and pharmaceuticals is well below what is actually charged, in fact without current research I am willing to bet that those manufacturing costs are about 300% or more below what is actually charged. Even with new technologies the costs could be brought down on both ends of the spectrum making it more affordable. Contd.......... "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 26, 2007 10:54 AM:

    " Contd...... As for the quality and quantity of Doctors, Nurses and Patient Care, While there are many Doctors and Nurses out there, a majority in fact, that do provide the best care possible, there are those that could really care less and are only interested in the amount of money they can rake in, in income and that is the sad part. Ask many Canadians and you will find that with Universal Health Care the quality of care goes down hill exponentially. I have spoken with many Canadian friends and they have testified this very thing, its definitely not the answer. I will tell you though that some government interference is almost inevitable because so long as Insurance Companies, Equipment Manufacturers, and Pharmaceutical Companies are raking in Billions per year they are not going to do anything that will cut into their profit margins. Insurance itself, as it is now is a scam anyway, because for the cost out of pocket, unless you are undergoing some substantial surgery, it really is not worth the costs and if we just put half the cost of premiums into a high interest account it would be much more beneficial in the long term. More later. "

    SCOOT wrote on Nov 26, 2007 12:17 PM:

    " Just another problem brought on by the democrats precious illegals. "

    sodapop wrote on Nov 26, 2007 2:39 PM:

    " Ronald Reagan ran things for 8 years, George H.W. Bush had it for 4 years. Bill Clinton was President for 8 years but Republicans controlled Congress for 6 of those years. George W. Bush had the full support of both the Senate and House for 4 years. How did the Democrats and their "precious illegals" cause the problems with all those Republicans in charge for so many years? "

    Tspud wrote on Nov 26, 2007 9:14 PM:

    " Let's go over the facts. Both parties have put us in this position. Kennedy was President 3 years and had both houses all 3 years, Johnson 5 years with all 5 with both house & senate, Nixon 6 years with neither house for 6 years, Ford 2 years with neither house, Carter 4 years with both houses, Reagan 8 years with none in Congress & 6 with Senate, Bush SR 4 years with neither, Clinton 8 years with 2 years each & Bush 7 years with 6 & 4. Do the math. "

    cybertech wrote on Nov 27, 2007 5:46 PM:

    " Melter, its funny that you should mention the management practices of Mercy Health System as the Doctor that almost cost me my life worked for Mercy Health. lol Your right though it is in part due to management practices of medical organizations such as Mercy Health, ect.. that contribute to the quantity over quality problem on top of the problems of cost due to overpricing by equipment manufacturers, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, ect..... "


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