Group Alleges Officer Shocked Cow
Last updated Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:34 PM CST in News
By Don Dailey
The Morning News
The Rogers Police Department is investigating an allegation a ranking officer used a stun gun on a cow and distributed video of the incident among department employees.
Police Chief Steve Helms said Tuesday he has begun an inquiry into allegations by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals that Lt. David Mitchell filmed himself firing an electronic stun device at a cow.
Helms said a captain in the department will conduct the investigation and Mitchell will continue his regular duties for the time being. Helms declined to talk about the details of the allegation.
Mitchell did not return phone messages left Tuesday on his department voice mailbox.
PETA representative Stephanie Bell sent Helms a letter of complaint dated Feb. 11 saying the organization had been contacted by a source affiliated with the department who reported the incident and claimed Mitchell distributed the video as a joke among friends and co-workers. The letter refers to an Arkansas law that makes the cruel mistreatment of animals a misdemeanor.
Mayor Steve Womack and City Attorney Ben Lipscomb also got copies of the letter.
Lipscomb said the incident on which the allegations are based happened two and a half years ago, beyond the statute of limitations for misdemeanors.
Womack said Tuesday he has not seen the video, but he expects a full investigation into the matter to be conducted. ÒThe allegations brought by PETA have merit, based on information provided me by more than one person,Ó he said.
The mayor said his biggest concerns are over the apparent inappropriate use of a police department weapon against an animal and the possibility that MitchellÕs superiors knew about the incident and disciplinary action was not taken.
Womack said that if he is not satisfied with the outcome of the investigation he may Òchoose to further involve himself.Ó
Lipscomb said that although he has not seen it, heÕs Òpretty much sure there is a video.Ó
Bell said Tuesday no one at PETA had seen the video, but the group believes the person who made the complaint is a reliable source. Bell declined to name the informant.
The Morning News' John Henley Jr. contributed to this report.
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justalocal wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:10 PM:
" If this happened over 2 1/2 years ago why is it even headline news? "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:47 PM:
" If this person is a "credible" source, why didn't they report this to their chain of command before calling PETA? Maybe it's a disgruntled employee. "
ironfortified wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:48 PM:
" I miss the days when Rogers employees were drowning puppies. I'm glad to see the police department bring back a similar tradition. "
rzrbackfan101 wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:53 PM:
" And why did this person wait 2 years to report it? To achicana...Cops put thier lives on the line everyday to protect us, and this is how we thank them? Maybe if you were on the right side of the law, you would appreciate them. If this indeed happen, maybe it was research and development. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.... "
native44 wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:16 PM:
" Must have been an Illegal Cow or maybe
a BIG B U L L.....? "
a BIG B U L L.....? "
justalocal wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:18 PM:
" Hard to compare killing/drowning puppies to shocking a cow.. who actually in the video didn't get fazed by it from what I hear. Furthermore if your going to test a tazer, I'd rather them test it on a cow than a homeless person as done in some cities!! Hard to believe there is nothing better for the Morning News to report. "
SODIUM PENTOTHAL wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:22 PM:
" How can tasing a 1,000 pound cow be a big deal if every officer that carries a taser has to be shocked themselves? "
ace-in-the-whole wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:53 PM:
" Check out the website for TASER. There have been many instances where their product has been tested and evlauated on animals. Look for youself. They even have their own video of Tasing a bull. "
Liz wrote on Feb 20, 2008 6:48 AM:
" It's disgusting to see so many people support using torture as entertainment, guess it's a good ol' boy thing. Sure, cops allow themselves to be tazed, but know what's going on. An animal has no clue; they just know they're being inflicted with pain.
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dragonfly wrote on Feb 20, 2008 7:25 AM:
" The only reason it is in the news now is because of the news story of the processding plant videos.2 years later get real. Grow up.There are so many other things we should be worrying about other than a cow that is usually slaughtered and eaten everyday in this world.This sounds like nothing more than I don't like this guy so let's see if I can get him inot trouble. I am so tired of all the animal rights people getting better rights for animals when they should be focusing on our children who are beaten, abused, molested, forgotten about.The homeless, gangs, illegals, streets, the list goes on. Imagine all that energy put into our society and could you imagine what might happen then. Don't get me wrong if an animal is grossly mistreated then the person needs to be punished, but this is just a minute problem in our communitities. Let's focus on real everyday things and not something that happened 2 years ago. Leave the officer alone and let him do his job. It's not like he has done this on a weekly basis. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 20, 2008 7:38 AM:
" Ever been to a sale barn? Seen the cattle prods that shock the cows and bulls to make them move? My dad hauled cattle and let me tell you as kids we would shock each other with it and it was pretty potent. Maybe we should take those away from those people as well. I have seen them save peoples from harm too. So in all fairness let's attack all of the people who have at some time hurt an animal. I have hit a cow across the face with a 2 by 4 that tried to run me down while I was trying to get her in the headgate to give her medicine about 15 years ago do I need to turn myself in as well? People need to grow up. I bet most PETA activist don't even own a pet. They surely would be abusing them because they would never be home to walk them, feed them, take them to the bathroom or bath because they are never home they are at too many rallies. "
2fedup wrote on Feb 20, 2008 10:00 AM:
" This is stupid. Why is this news? Who was it that left a loaded GUN in a bathroom and who is he friendly enough with to keep it out of the news? "
ozarks wrote on Feb 20, 2008 10:20 AM:
" I agree with Dragonfly on this one 100%. We should make a lunch date and discuss this over quarter pounders at McDonalds? "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 20, 2008 10:27 AM:
" ozarks-- WOW.....I can't believe someone agreed with me 100%. Thank you. First time in my life. What time at Mickey D's? ha ha
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NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 20, 2008 10:38 AM:
" Why worry about gangs when you can just go to the local Panera Bread bathroom and find a loaded gun? Maybe he should cut back on all the gang seminars he teaches and concentrate on keeping track of his own gun. "
2fedup wrote on Feb 20, 2008 10:46 AM:
" I hear about the gang seminars all the time, but have never heard about any gang members being arrested. Can someone tell me what (if anything) the gang expert has done? "
justalocal wrote on Feb 20, 2008 10:54 AM:
" It is nice to see there are finally a few realisitc people in this town!! Yahoo!!!... Dragonfly & Ozark .. you guys are great!!!
I would rather read news that happens today rather than something minor from 2 1/2 yrs ago.
Now a loaded gun in a bathroom for a child to pick up is a different story why didn't we get to read that? He must be running for Sheriff or something!!! "
I would rather read news that happens today rather than something minor from 2 1/2 yrs ago.
Now a loaded gun in a bathroom for a child to pick up is a different story why didn't we get to read that? He must be running for Sheriff or something!!! "
2fedup wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:04 AM:
" Was there any disiplinary action taken towards the candidate who left the gun in the bathroom? If not, did the mayor decide to "further involve himself" in that as well? "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:13 AM:
" I guess I am lost on the gun at Panera Bread... Who did this and When? "
justalocal wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:23 AM:
" Dragonfly,
Since this story is so important the Morning News posted it not just once but twice, so you need to click on news and read the first print of this story as we are on the second printing... what I was refering to was:
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:48 PM:
" I want to know why the Morning News failed to report the story of a certain sheriff's candidate whose gun was found in a public restroom and turned over to the Bentonville PD. "
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Since this story is so important the Morning News posted it not just once but twice, so you need to click on news and read the first print of this story as we are on the second printing... what I was refering to was:
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:48 PM:
" I want to know why the Morning News failed to report the story of a certain sheriff's candidate whose gun was found in a public restroom and turned over to the Bentonville PD. "
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ozarks wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:23 AM:
" Dragonfly, Maybe we should change that lunch date from McDonalds to Panera's. We can have the club so not to show favor to beef alone and we can get the information about the gun first hand. We could kill 2 birds at once? Sorry, I didn't mean that PETA!! Anyway, I read a lot of your posts and I agree or at least understand your position most times. I'm still wondering when those deputies looking for truth are going to have a meeting. :) Can't seem to find that out. "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:27 AM:
" And we could use the sheriff candidate's gun to kill those two birds!! "
ozarks wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:29 AM:
" I am looking for the gun story and can't seem to find it? I am keeping a close eye os the sheriff race and would be interested. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:32 AM:
" Naked Truth, since your on the know, and we aren't... would by any chance the candidate in mention remind you of say ... Kansas City?
Ozark... Panera has a great veggie sandwich so you can keep all the animals happy!! LOL And NO I am not a vegetarian!! "
Ozark... Panera has a great veggie sandwich so you can keep all the animals happy!! LOL And NO I am not a vegetarian!! "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:45 AM:
" About a month ago, this sheriff candidate visited Panera Bread and left his loaded gun in the bathroom. Someone at Panera found it and called the Bentonville police. They came and got it. I do not think there is a report on this because it was picked up quickly but I would imagine that the call from panera is on record. And yes, Kansas City comes to mind. This article says that the mayor's main concern is the misuse of pd equipment, then how in the world does leaving a loaded gun in a public bathroom not fall into this category? I guess running for sheriff makes you exempt from discipline. "
ozarks wrote on Feb 20, 2008 12:06 PM:
" Okay, got it. Sorry to be a pest but which Panera was that at (Rogers-Bentonville-some place else). I am really going there to ask what they found out. Where are those deputies looking for truth when we need information Dragonfly? Thank you for the recommendation about the menu Naked Truth. I hear veggies scream when picked? I better stick to the meat. :) "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 20, 2008 12:37 PM:
" I only know of one Panera in Bentonville. Feel free to go by there, but you may have better luck going to or calling Bentonville PD. There should be a report there. "
2fedup wrote on Feb 20, 2008 1:11 PM:
" The news once referred to the Rogers Police Officer who is running for Sheriff as a "Former Rogers Officer". What happened with that? Did he quit, and then go back? Why? Was it just a major typo? Does anyone know? I tried searching the site for it, but I cant locate anything about it. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 20, 2008 1:20 PM:
" Ozark, your so welcome but I have to admit I had BBQ pork for lunch, at least I stayed away from the beef!!!
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2fedup wrote on Feb 20, 2008 1:27 PM:
" A Sheriff Candidate was once referred to as a former Rogers Officer, what happened with that? Did he quit then go back? I cant find any information on this site about it. "
2fedup wrote on Feb 20, 2008 1:29 PM:
" Oops, didnt think they posted the last question so I ended up posting it twice. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 20, 2008 2:36 PM:
" 2fedup - I don't really have a good answer for your question, but I seem to remember reading something about running being a conflict with people asking him about it while on the job...
not sure if he resigned or what!!
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not sure if he resigned or what!!
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dragonfly wrote on Feb 20, 2008 3:27 PM:
" Ozarks-- Deputies for truth are supposed to have a meeting this month sometime and Andy and Kelley are both supposed to speak. (I think both maybe be wrong and just Kelley) Haven't heard of a time or place. They left that part out.Must not want me there.
Oh by the way, we couldn't have a club sandwich because it has turkey on it and they (turkeys) are mentally challenged (they seem to open their mouths and drown while it rains). PETA maybe trying to get them into therapy so we need to give them turkeys a fighting chance. I meant the actual turkey ( the animal). Sorry I know that one was not near as good as 2 birds with one stone. I just had to try something. If I hear anymore on the Deputies for Truth I will let you know.
And all you others that have the info. that we don't-- YOU NEED TO SHARE. My fingers are tired of trying to find all this info. "
Oh by the way, we couldn't have a club sandwich because it has turkey on it and they (turkeys) are mentally challenged (they seem to open their mouths and drown while it rains). PETA maybe trying to get them into therapy so we need to give them turkeys a fighting chance. I meant the actual turkey ( the animal). Sorry I know that one was not near as good as 2 birds with one stone. I just had to try something. If I hear anymore on the Deputies for Truth I will let you know.
And all you others that have the info. that we don't-- YOU NEED TO SHARE. My fingers are tired of trying to find all this info. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 20, 2008 4:01 PM:
" dragonfly email me at justa.local@yahoo.com and I will tell you what I know. "
International Traveler wrote on Feb 20, 2008 5:02 PM:
" I love PETA...People Eat Tasy Animals...Been a member since 1974!!!!! "
International Traveler wrote on Feb 20, 2008 5:04 PM:
" OH OH, wait...This could be a GREAT Chic-Fil-A commercial... "
cybertech wrote on Feb 20, 2008 6:47 PM:
" I am sure that cow has already graced the dinner plates at some of the many restaurants we have in this area anyway.
It amazes me the things that PETA comes up with to keep themselves in the limelight. I find it funny though that they think they are healthier than us meat and veggie eaters. lol
I would rather be a carnivore than a salad shooter any day. lol
As well if this claim is true, it is a misdemeanor and if I remember correctly the statute of limitations is 2 or 3 years.
As well cattle prods are a heck a lot more potent than Taser anyway and I agree there are a lot more important things to worry about. If this was somebodies pet I could understand but most likely this was a cow that would or did eventually end up on a restaurant menu anyway. "
It amazes me the things that PETA comes up with to keep themselves in the limelight. I find it funny though that they think they are healthier than us meat and veggie eaters. lol
I would rather be a carnivore than a salad shooter any day. lol
As well if this claim is true, it is a misdemeanor and if I remember correctly the statute of limitations is 2 or 3 years.
As well cattle prods are a heck a lot more potent than Taser anyway and I agree there are a lot more important things to worry about. If this was somebodies pet I could understand but most likely this was a cow that would or did eventually end up on a restaurant menu anyway. "
ozarks wrote on Feb 20, 2008 7:43 PM:
" Well, the gun story is true. I went by there tonight and it did happen. No one there knew who's gun it was but they did say it was a cops. Wow! How can you let your gun get away in a public bathroom? I remember the truth folks were to have a meeting this month Drangonfly. They better get it scheduled. The month is about over. I can't find their website. I would like to hear the canidates talk? I would like to write more but I am going cow tipping tonight. "
family guy wrote on Feb 20, 2008 8:30 PM:
" How did this blog suddenly become something besides the fact that David Mitchell tased a cow? Sounds like the Ferguson campaign crew or Mitchell's team has a beef to pick (no pun intended)with a certain Sheriffs candidate. Why don't we steer this conversation back toward criminal actions, not acccidents. (maybe some pun intended this time) What else is Mitchell being investigated for? I do believe his reputation preceeds him! "
justalocal wrote on Feb 20, 2008 9:13 PM:
" Familyman, ever hear the saying "you shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house? I think you shouldn't start something on someone else.. if you have something to hide.
I am not on Ferguson's campaign crew heck I probably wouldn't know him if I met him on the street... didn't realize Mitchell was running... might have to give up my Andy Lee vote!!! :)
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I am not on Ferguson's campaign crew heck I probably wouldn't know him if I met him on the street... didn't realize Mitchell was running... might have to give up my Andy Lee vote!!! :)
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rzrbackfan101 wrote on Feb 20, 2008 9:20 PM:
" Family guy is right. Lets steer some conversation back toward criminal actions. Where can we find such actions? Certainly not in this report. Tasering a cow is hardly criminal. Give me a break. And yes his reputation does proceed him. He is a great cop, always has been. Check him out, his record is as clean as can be. If you have a problem with this cop, then you probably have a grudge for something he busted you for perhaps. Check the archives. The last time he was in the paper was for heading up a swat call. He does a great job, put of course the morning news can't report that....it wouldn't sell as many papers. "
stellingbelle wrote on Feb 20, 2008 9:24 PM:
" Sour Grapes Family Man....nothing upsets my stomach worse! There are so many other "REAL" crimes out there...and tax dollars are being wasted on this!!!
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stellingbelle wrote on Feb 20, 2008 9:26 PM:
" Kudos Rzrbackfan, Lt. Mitchell is one of the finest individuals I have ever known. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 20, 2008 9:30 PM:
" Well folks I am calling it a day, and hoping tomorrow we will wake up to some real news... like an ice storm or a satalite being intercepted and shot down in space. Maybe tomorrow the Morning News will have something important to write about... MAYBE "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 20, 2008 10:34 PM:
" What an appropriate name family man! I seem to have lost count, exactly how many kids does our beloved Rogers candidate has with 1, 2, no 3 different mommies? Glad to see the KC dilenquents have finally joined us! "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 8:10 AM:
" We can all trash Lee, Ferguson and Cradduck for whatever reasons we may have. Each of us will have a different opinion of them. Some Good and Some Bad!
Nakedtruth--It doesn't matter how many mommies the kids have. All that matters is they are loved and taken care of and have a good home. I don't even know where that statement came from. How does that have to do with cows?Let's get back to the story.
I hope that the statute of limitations has ran out.This should have been taken care of 2 years ago or whenever it happened? Why, if someone goes to the trouble and calls PETA, does he wait for so long? Sounds like the officer that called PETA should be punished for waiting so long to report animal abuse. It just sounds to me like he has a grudge. Maybe it was brought to the attention of the officers boss and was handled at that time. Or maybe not. But if you have nothing better to do than bring up things from 2 years ago then that person must be very unhappy and want the rest of the world to be right there with him.How many hamburgers has he eaten lately? Maybe I should call PETA on him. What do you all think? "
Nakedtruth--It doesn't matter how many mommies the kids have. All that matters is they are loved and taken care of and have a good home. I don't even know where that statement came from. How does that have to do with cows?Let's get back to the story.
I hope that the statute of limitations has ran out.This should have been taken care of 2 years ago or whenever it happened? Why, if someone goes to the trouble and calls PETA, does he wait for so long? Sounds like the officer that called PETA should be punished for waiting so long to report animal abuse. It just sounds to me like he has a grudge. Maybe it was brought to the attention of the officers boss and was handled at that time. Or maybe not. But if you have nothing better to do than bring up things from 2 years ago then that person must be very unhappy and want the rest of the world to be right there with him.How many hamburgers has he eaten lately? Maybe I should call PETA on him. What do you all think? "
2fedup wrote on Feb 21, 2008 8:19 AM:
" This blog did get off subject, thank goodness. Tasing a cow is stupid, and boring to discuss. I am much more interested in how good of buddies the candidate who left his gun in the bathroom is with the Mayor, and why the Mayor didnt "further involve himself" with an incident that could have hurt more than a cow. - Mayor, any comments? We all know you read these blogs. "
2fedup wrote on Feb 21, 2008 8:40 AM:
" Seeit-looks like you have a grudge against the S.T.A.R Team. What, were you not in good enough shape to get on the team? If you need to watch your wife, its not because of David Mitchell, its because your not doing something right. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 9:08 AM:
" I was thinking the wife comment was about someone's wife looking like a cow.... MMMOOOOO "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 21, 2008 9:15 AM:
" Anyone read the new article in the Daily Record about Lt. Mitchell? It talks about a bunch of false allegations that a disgruntled employee named Martinez made against him and he was in turn investigated for. Although the story is less than interesting, the timing speaks volumes. It is interesting to find out that Martinez is Cradduck's campaign manager. Wonder who was behind that article!!! "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 9:28 AM:
" justalocal-- I emailed you yesterday and you did not answer????? "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 9:57 AM:
" dragonfly... I emailed you back immediately... check your junk mail folder? "
bitzi wrote on Feb 21, 2008 9:59 AM:
" Why was this gun in the bathroom story not reported? What if a child was the next one to walk in that bathroom and find that gun? And if it is a candidate for Sheriff that did this it is very alarming. What kind of example does that set? Voters deserve answers. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:11 AM:
" I was told by a person at the Morning news that they were investing the gun story but his exact words were: "I don't know if it will ever become a news story though" "
2fedup wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:20 AM:
" Does anyone else think that maybe the Mayor had something to do with keeping it out of the news? After all, it would make him look bad for backing a candidate who isnt responsable enough to keep track of his own GUN. Maybe the whole "Mitchell hates cows stuff" is just a way for the Mayor to make it look as though he is on top of things at the RPD. Is he a Mayor, or a Police Chief? "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:28 AM:
" I communicated with the Mayor by email yesterday and I think he is an honest fair man. I don't see him being the problem at all....
I do think the gun story might of been covered somewhere else. "
I do think the gun story might of been covered somewhere else. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:31 AM:
" justalocal-- It was not in junk mail. Please try again.....Thanks "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:36 AM:
" dragonfly .. I just resent it.. although I don't think there is anything in it.. that hasn't already been posted since that time!! :) "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:43 AM:
" justalocal- When you spoke to the Mayor yesterday, did this gun issue come up? If so, why have we not seen the mayor on the news demanding the chief of police to conduct an investigation into this the way he did over the cow tasing? Is he playing favorites or what? "
ozarks wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:45 AM:
" To me the gun story is really a non story unless someone is in Fergurson or Lee's camp. I am sure cops leave stuff places all of the time. That would be something handled by the officers department and not the newspaper. What if a fireman or woman left a fire ax. Would that be news? Nope. Now back to cows.. I wonder who the first person was that found out there was milk in a cow utter and how did that person inform others? Did they say, guess what I learned today? I wounder what PETA would have said if they had been around? "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:49 AM:
" The gun story is a non issue? Leaving your wallet behind is one thing. A loaded gun for anyone to find, ABSOLUTELY an issue. This cow tasing issue is something that also should have been handled in the dept. Not the media. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:52 AM:
" I can't believe that leaving a loaded gun in a public restaurant would be considered a non issue... OMG what would happen if a child had gotten it?
If police can't hang onto their guns and not miss them ... that scares me to death. "
If police can't hang onto their guns and not miss them ... that scares me to death. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:53 AM:
" NakedTruth,
No I did not discuss the gun issue with the Mayor, I did however send him the link to this blog. "
No I did not discuss the gun issue with the Mayor, I did however send him the link to this blog. "
bitzi wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:57 AM:
" ozarks wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:45 AM:
" To me the gun story is really a non story unless someone is in Fergurson or Lee's camp. I am sure cops leave stuff places all of the time. That would be something handled by the officers department and not the newspaper. What if a fireman or woman left a fire ax. Would that be news? Nope. "
Are you kidding? Stuff!!! Stuff!!! A gun is not stuff!!! Don't you have to apply to get a gun and be approved to carry it? How many guns have killed children when left improperly stored? How many firemen axes have killed children when not stored properly? Your point is ridiculous.
I certainly am not associated with Ferguson, Lee, or Cradduck or anyone in the Republican party for that matter.
I have a child that is old enough to go into a public restroom alone. I am an active voter in Benton County. I do believe a Sheriff candidate leaving a firearm in a public restroom is a serious issue.
Oh and yes I do believe that testing defensive weapons on animals is apalling and does warrant investigation, especially if it is videotaped and distributed as a form of entertainment. Regardless of the statutes of limitation on criminal charges, I believe at the very least disciplinary action would be warranted if proven true.
Don't tase my cow.
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" To me the gun story is really a non story unless someone is in Fergurson or Lee's camp. I am sure cops leave stuff places all of the time. That would be something handled by the officers department and not the newspaper. What if a fireman or woman left a fire ax. Would that be news? Nope. "
Are you kidding? Stuff!!! Stuff!!! A gun is not stuff!!! Don't you have to apply to get a gun and be approved to carry it? How many guns have killed children when left improperly stored? How many firemen axes have killed children when not stored properly? Your point is ridiculous.
I certainly am not associated with Ferguson, Lee, or Cradduck or anyone in the Republican party for that matter.
I have a child that is old enough to go into a public restroom alone. I am an active voter in Benton County. I do believe a Sheriff candidate leaving a firearm in a public restroom is a serious issue.
Oh and yes I do believe that testing defensive weapons on animals is apalling and does warrant investigation, especially if it is videotaped and distributed as a form of entertainment. Regardless of the statutes of limitation on criminal charges, I believe at the very least disciplinary action would be warranted if proven true.
Don't tase my cow.
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id202 wrote on Feb 21, 2008 11:07 AM:
" If cops don't want there business to show up in the media, they should stop video taping the cruel pranks they, (that's not fair) SOME of them do to animals & people. Ask Mitchell about the tape he made of the mentally challenged people in Rogers, and showed to everyone he knew for years. Come on Dave this stuff was bound to catch up with you one day. I don't want to see Mitchell lose his job. I have at one time considered him a "friend", but his ego has already cost him an awful lot, and it's time he realizes what he does for a living does not put him above the law. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 11:13 AM:
" id202 it is amazing to me that people see tazering a cow as being so cruel... when we allow deers to be shot with bow and arrows ... ever seen
a deer still walking around with a arrow in them crippled? Give me a break your comments show me that you are out for blood!!! "
a deer still walking around with a arrow in them crippled? Give me a break your comments show me that you are out for blood!!! "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 11:16 AM:
" Is it icy in Bentonville? Oh, food for thought......Maybe we should find us Democrat to run against the Republicans. Know anyone? Our County is pretty diverse now maybe a Dem. should run and win. Couldn't be any worse than what choices we have now. "
longhornfan wrote on Feb 21, 2008 11:17 AM:
" I'm confused. The news report I saw said Mitchell claimed he tazored his own cattle. I was told Mitchell doesn't even own cattle and never has. Is Mitchell a liar, an animal abuser and a wife stealer (cheater)? Sounds like all of the above. That's the kind of person I want protecting me and mine...NOT! "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 11:29 AM:
" Tasering the cow....John Wayne up everyone it is old news. Has anyone checked on the cow to see if it has had any long term side affects? Maybe we should get PETA to go follow up on the cow. If it has not already been slaughtered. If the cow was starving to death then I could understand animal abuse but come on this is old news. Is the cow even alive? "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 11:41 AM:
" Okay, So let me get this straight: Mitchell-- is the taser guy.
Martinez-- is the ?????? fired cop and Cradduck's Campaign Manager
Ferguson-- is the Illegal Alien detainer with no just cause.
Cradduck-- Is the leave the gun in the bathroom guy
Lee- Well you all know how I feel about that subject.
PETA-- People Exhausting Tax-dollars Away
The Cow--Let's name her "Rosie" it will be more personal that way.
Now someone correct me if I have anything wrong. I am just trying to make sure I have all this information straight.
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Martinez-- is the ?????? fired cop and Cradduck's Campaign Manager
Ferguson-- is the Illegal Alien detainer with no just cause.
Cradduck-- Is the leave the gun in the bathroom guy
Lee- Well you all know how I feel about that subject.
PETA-- People Exhausting Tax-dollars Away
The Cow--Let's name her "Rosie" it will be more personal that way.
Now someone correct me if I have anything wrong. I am just trying to make sure I have all this information straight.
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dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 11:59 AM:
" Mitchell a wife stealer? I am sure the last time I checked it took 2 tango. So do we call the wife he stole "the woman who apparently was not happy in her relationship and went looking for something else lady?" I am not trying to be a smart@$$ but we have went from a cow tasering to: McDonald's , Panera, gun in the bathroom, kids with different momma's, to gun story not reported in newspaper, wife stealer, back to the cow, back to the gun, back to kids, back to PETA and now at the wife stealer. Wow I love these blogs. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 12:01 PM:
" dragonfly...some of that story may have gotten confused with McCain?
Oh did anyone notice we shot the satalite down last night? Now that is what news should be about...
The cow has done been eaten!!!! "
Oh did anyone notice we shot the satalite down last night? Now that is what news should be about...
The cow has done been eaten!!!! "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 12:02 PM:
" Justalocal--- I am sorry I assumed once again it was female since it was refered to as a cow. We can call it a neutral name so we won't be discriminating against anyone or anything. "
ozarks wrote on Feb 21, 2008 1:02 PM:
" A satalite was shot down? Not with the gun left in the bathroom I hope? "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 1:16 PM:
" Ozarks--- I think that gun was they used to shoot the satellite down with. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 1:19 PM:
" Boy I messed that up...Should have been "I think that gun was what they used.." my mistake. "
flamingo79 wrote on Feb 21, 2008 1:26 PM:
" There's an awful lot of innuendo's on this blog - gossip in other words, most of which is completely off subject - who and why would these accusations be written in this particular blog? Regarding the cop leaving his gun in the bathroom - I seem to remember in the paper a few weeks back that Kelly Cradduck was taking a leave of absence to campaign for Sheriff. If that is true - did anyone else (besides me) think that perhaps it was his personal gun and not city-issued? Therefore, wouldn't it be the responsibility of the Bentonville PD to address NOT RPD? I am familiar with each of the candidates for Sheriff. I WILL NEVER, NEVER again vote for Andy Lee (I did last time and he was a total disappointment). Have not been real thrilled with the current Sheriff, due to his lack of enthusiasm for enforcing immigration laws, so I really thought about voting for Cradduck. However; due to the lies, innuendos, smearing of a fine RPD officer - Mr. Cradduck you have lost all dignity and any respect I had for you. I was warned by many as to these failures in you, but chose to make my own decision, and thought I would give you a chance. Although I disagree with the current Sheriff on a couple of issues - either of the alternatives would be disastrous for Benton County. My vote will go to Ferguson. "
2fedup wrote on Feb 21, 2008 1:52 PM:
" flamingo79- your right, it might have been his personal gun, but that doesn't make it any better. Police officers are held to higher standards. It was careless for the gun to be left in a restroom, and it is insulting that the person who left it hasnt jumped on here to appologize. Everyone knows he has read all of this. I think he would want to keep up on what is being blogged under a report that many people think he initiated, whether he called Peta or had someone else call. Probably thought it was a great idea to call Peta on something stupid and 2 years old, but should regret it now that it has done nothing but make him look like a vindictive little man. "
ozarks wrote on Feb 21, 2008 2:20 PM:
" Dragonfly..That was a great idea that someone run democrate or independant for sheriff. I'll do it if you can get 50K donated to run and you will be my manager. We will win too. What do you say? :) My promise to the people will be "No yard signs"!! TV ads only! "
ozarks wrote on Feb 21, 2008 2:23 PM:
" Another promise..No cow or bull or steer or any kind of beef animal what-so-ever will be tased on my watch "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 2:27 PM:
" You have my vote... does the Sheriff have any say so over what is news and what is not?... maybe someone needs to run as editor of this Paper... it is turning into the National Enquirer.
guess it needs to be someone who knows the difference between a cow, a bull, and a steer.. that leaves this city gal out!! "
guess it needs to be someone who knows the difference between a cow, a bull, and a steer.. that leaves this city gal out!! "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 2:38 PM:
" Sounds good to me. Let's see if we can find a backer. I am good at managing. I would however have to be your secretary once you were elected. That makes me feel much better about my klivestock. Just don't set your eyes on any pigs or chickens. Promise. Yeah on yard signs, I hate those things. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 2:41 PM:
" Hey Ozarks, you got any of that thar law enforcement trainin'? Or are we not going to run on the Good Old Boy Forum? "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 2:46 PM:
" Justalocal-- Hate to tell you that a Heifer falls in there with cow, bull and steer. I just wanted you to have all your facts straight
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justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 3:24 PM:
" Geeze Dragonfly, no wonder everyone runs for political offices instead of being a farmer.. it is far less complicated!! :) "
ozarks wrote on Feb 21, 2008 4:17 PM:
" Secretary Dragonfly, I have a degree but it is in management. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 4:27 PM:
" Well I have some experience in dispatching and your management degree we could get a GOOD right hand man that knows the laws......... I think we have a plan. Can't be any worse than what we have now? Right? "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 4:39 PM:
" Ozarks---- I have some dispatching eperience and you have a degree in mamnagement we can hire someone as our GOOD righthand man who knows the law... I think we're good to go. Can't be worse than we have now. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 21, 2008 4:52 PM:
" No for a trucking company. But, hey they drive cars and would stay in the county. I know 10-4 and 10-100 and 10-7 and 10-8. How many more 10 things could there be? It wouldn't take us but a day or 2 to memorize them. Besides our righthand man can explain all that. And When the illegal aliens lawyers come to get them we can speak French and We would only need to know 1 sentence in French and that would be "Moi do pas parler anglais ou espgnol". (translation: I do not speak English or Spanish) I think that should cover us. "
ozarks wrote on Feb 21, 2008 4:58 PM:
" You've talked me into it. Start collecting the money and we will give the peole what the deserve. I'll be 10-10, 10-42 "
peacekeeper wrote on Feb 21, 2008 6:22 PM:
" This is getting out of hand. I know David and Kelly and like them both--the personal level this has gotten to is childish. This article has nothing to do with the election. Can we please stick to the issue? "
ozarks wrote on Feb 21, 2008 8:17 PM:
" Sure Peacekeeper. I think cow tasing is not important and I think Rogers PD has many more important issues to work on. Is that better? As to the personal level? I don't think I have toched on anything personal. You have though since you want to inform us you like a fellow named Kelly and David. Who are they. I bet they are not cows? "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 9:08 PM:
" Just read on KNWA where PETA is protesting Springdale naming a street after Don Tyson... seems they have gone from cows to chickens!! Who are they to decide what we name our streets? Anyone know of any Anti PETA groups? I am ready to sign up!!! "
rogersboy wrote on Feb 21, 2008 9:51 PM:
" After reading all of these blogs, what has really been accomplished? There have been numerous smears made about a bunch of individuals. It is obvious that a lot of the comments made are by cops. You should be embarrassed at yourselves not that you'll ever admit it. It is understandable to take up for someone, but this is ridiculous. The issue at hand is that a high ranking supervisor at a police department used a city owned taser on an animal. Is this right or wrong? Does it violate some policy that the department has? Videotaping and putting music to it shows me that he wasn't training with it. I agree with those who say this does not deserve the attention that it is getting, however he is a public official so we do have the right to know if a violation has taken place. We as citizens pay taxes for what we hope is protection by professionals. I am not seeing it here and right now I am very embarrassed to say I live in Rogers. I do know some of the Police and think they are very professional, it is a shame for them. Wasn't there another issue not to long ago involving a captain there? I hope this all ends soon. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:03 PM:
" Definitely Not a Cop nor do I personally know any cops!!!...and No I have never been on the wrong side of the law to have to get to know any of them!! :) "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:08 PM:
" Rogersboy--- you are right about one thing, this has been nothing more than a smear campaign. Funny thing is, that is all that your previous postings were. They were so bad that they had to be removed. Why the sudden change of heart? "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:13 PM:
" NakedTruth You are so right!!! I still think everyone should write Don Dailey the one who wrote this article and ask him where his investigation into the gun in the bathroom story went...and why he does not think it will make it into the news?????
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NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:30 PM:
" And rogersboy says that the taxpayers have the right to know if a violation has taken place by a public official. I couldn't agree more!! This is exactly why the media should be pressed to run the gun story.
justalocal-- is this who you contacted at the morning news when you spoke to them? Has the Daily Record been notified of this? I for one will definately contact both. "
justalocal-- is this who you contacted at the morning news when you spoke to them? Has the Daily Record been notified of this? I for one will definately contact both. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:33 PM:
" Yes Naked Truth that is who I contacted. Good idea on Daily Record, at least they don't seem to be as bias... lets see how fast my last 2 comments get deleted!!! "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:44 PM:
" I did notice that the Daily Record had two aritcles on Mitchell. Both by the same writer. Is he personally connected or does he always cover the PD news? Not sure because I don't read their paper much. I have a feeling they too are bias. "
wow wrote on Feb 22, 2008 6:10 AM:
" Rogersboy is correct about the issue at hand. A high ranking supervisor pulled a childish, immature, ridiculously stupid prank. Clearly the PD needs to determine if someone of that maturity level has the capacity to lead and make intelligent decisions. And please people! Do your personal communicating through your personal email and not this forum. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 22, 2008 7:53 AM:
" Ozarks---I have $10.00, Woo-Hoo!Think that might get gut a half second commercial? Well I see things have drastically changed on the blog.
Rogersboy-- No he should not have tazed the cow.But why now, 2 years or more after the incident?this is stupid.It is truly politics.98% of the cops in every department are professional, but let's not forget THEY ARE HUMAN.They are no better than anyone else. If I had made the video would it be escalated to this.I THINK NOT.If you seen one out having a beer and dancing would that be inappropriate?These guys are people that want to do things we take for granted everyday. If we go to bar and have a beer and drive home it is okay.However if someone see a cop drink a beer and drive home he has then committed a Cardinal SIN. It is his time, his personal time. Not saying he should have tazed the cow. Just trying to prove to you that they are not gods and are humans. Worry about the guy who got 6 years probation for talking to whom he thought was a 13 year old girl (and was talking to a daputy) or the guy who actually fondled an 11 year old girl and got 6 years Probation and 120 days time served and is out walking on the streets again. I wish things like that were our top concerns. Not a COW and how someone should be punished.
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Rogersboy-- No he should not have tazed the cow.But why now, 2 years or more after the incident?this is stupid.It is truly politics.98% of the cops in every department are professional, but let's not forget THEY ARE HUMAN.They are no better than anyone else. If I had made the video would it be escalated to this.I THINK NOT.If you seen one out having a beer and dancing would that be inappropriate?These guys are people that want to do things we take for granted everyday. If we go to bar and have a beer and drive home it is okay.However if someone see a cop drink a beer and drive home he has then committed a Cardinal SIN. It is his time, his personal time. Not saying he should have tazed the cow. Just trying to prove to you that they are not gods and are humans. Worry about the guy who got 6 years probation for talking to whom he thought was a 13 year old girl (and was talking to a daputy) or the guy who actually fondled an 11 year old girl and got 6 years Probation and 120 days time served and is out walking on the streets again. I wish things like that were our top concerns. Not a COW and how someone should be punished.
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longhornfan wrote on Feb 22, 2008 8:37 AM:
" What's scary is that people take things like tazering a cow so lightly. You know being cruel to animals is one of the first signs of a serial killer. I know that's a little EXTREME, but if he can be that cruel to an animal I'd hate to see how he treats people. No wait a minute..I know how he treats people. "
justalocal wrote on Feb 22, 2008 8:44 AM:
" longhornfan, I think the chip on your shoulder makes tazering the cow such an issue!!! "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 22, 2008 9:08 AM:
" justalocal-- Would that be a cow chip???
Just joshing. Well longhornfan-- your comparison to him being a serial killer is way EXTREME. Should we look to him for any unsolved murders around here. You must know him as you stated.Enlighten us so we can know the truth. I for one would like to know how bad of a person he is. I want him off the beat if he is a bad cop. But please like so many have asked of me. Be truthful and know these things 1st hand not from my wife's friend's cousin's mother. I am really trying to make a decison on who I want as a sheriff and it is really hard to do since everytime I decide I like a candidate then I find out something bad. "
Just joshing. Well longhornfan-- your comparison to him being a serial killer is way EXTREME. Should we look to him for any unsolved murders around here. You must know him as you stated.Enlighten us so we can know the truth. I for one would like to know how bad of a person he is. I want him off the beat if he is a bad cop. But please like so many have asked of me. Be truthful and know these things 1st hand not from my wife's friend's cousin's mother. I am really trying to make a decison on who I want as a sheriff and it is really hard to do since everytime I decide I like a candidate then I find out something bad. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 22, 2008 9:19 AM:
" The daily record has an article on the tazering of the cow. I wonder why they don't attach a blog to their stories? "
ozarks wrote on Feb 22, 2008 11:55 AM:
" Good job Dragonfly! I would say more but I don't want to upset Peacekeeper or Wow. I did something iteresting this morning. I went to hear Lee, Cradick and Ferguson talk at a breakfast on the west side of the county. That was very interesting. "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 22, 2008 12:18 PM:
" How did you find out where and when they were speaking? Been to their websites and can't seem to find anything. Would love to go and hear what they have to say. Any help would be appreciated. "
ozarks wrote on Feb 22, 2008 12:45 PM:
" I just happen to be having breakfast with some friends and there they were speaking to the Rotary or Mason's. One of the TV news organizations was there too. They all spoke for about 40 minutes. "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 22, 2008 1:01 PM:
" That is not fair Ozarks you should have let us know. So what was your opinion of the 3? Are we still running? Please say we are I am up to $15.00 right now. "
ozarks wrote on Feb 22, 2008 1:46 PM:
" If I had known my dear I would have let all know. Just so I keep on topic for those that it upsets when we don't..none of the 3 promoted cow tazing. I will be looking to see them speak again, as I will circut and county judge races. I will say, I was not impressed by one of the men and 2 were very good acutally. I am trying to keep up with the races and will let Dragonfly and Nacked Truth advise if you will do the same. $15!!! You go girl. :) "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 22, 2008 3:02 PM:
" Ozarks-- here is my email address-- please let me know who you weren't impressed with and why.
dragonfly.1962@yahoo.com "
dragonfly.1962@yahoo.com "
NAKED TRUTH wrote on Feb 22, 2008 6:12 PM:
" I would love to hear your opinion on todays events also if you don't mind!
nkdtruth1@yahoo.com "
nkdtruth1@yahoo.com "
Rogersboy wrote on Feb 22, 2008 7:55 PM:
" Naked Truth, you must have me confused with someone else, because this is the first and only time I have ever posted to this story. I have not deviated from my opinion on this matter, nor will I...........It is ridiculous!!! Let's stick with the facts and quit throwing smoke screens. I can"t wait for more on the Sheriff's race, check for my posts there. "
Mrs. Kitty Meow Meow wrote on Feb 22, 2008 8:17 PM:
" A old proverb says "A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel." We should all be reminded that we are entrusted with power and dominion over the animals of this earth. We need to use that power in a responsible, humane manner. Otherwise, we are tyrants. "
hbungus wrote on Feb 22, 2008 8:55 PM:
" One last thing, forget the cow... who authorized a lieutenant to use a department issued weapon to taser a cow? Those taser cartridges cost about $20.00 each. Who paid for this and where is the use of force report for discharging the weapon? Why didn't the chief ask these questions when he saw the video long ago as it was shown to him for "entertainment purposes"? "
dragonfly wrote on Feb 24, 2008 8:17 AM:
" rogersboy--- previous post was 2/21/08 @ 9:51pm. If it wasn't you I would see who was writing under you name. "
OMG wrote on Feb 25, 2008 8:19 PM:
" Reconner speaks the truth. Some might even call this "oversight" abuse of power. Wonder what else we don't know about because it's covered up? "
OMG wrote on Feb 25, 2008 8:27 PM:
" Reconner speaks the truth. Some might even call that oversight abuse of power. Wonder what else we don't know about? "
OMG wrote on Feb 26, 2008 6:23 AM:
" I read the post. Reconner's. You weren't so rude to him. Truth is truth. "
OMG wrote on Feb 26, 2008 6:26 AM:
" One more thought, Womack is the one wanting an investigation (according to the posts which I have read). How can someone conduct an investigation into these allegations when he himself has so much to hide? Think about it next time you go to the polls to vote. "
achicana wrote on Feb 26, 2008 8:36 AM:
" I agree with you OMG, I will think about it next time i vote. "
Mrs. Kitty Meow Meow wrote on Feb 26, 2008 12:39 PM:
" Ya'll hating on the mayor by bringing up his children and then somehow blaming the mayor for what happened on the PETA video sound real desperate. I guess if you don't have real issues to discuss you can get personal. He's a great mayor who has done so much for the community, especially the ICE relationship with local law enforcement. If it wasn't for Mayor Womack, that would never have happened. Bringing up personal stuff is real weak people. "
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