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Group Wants State Laws Against Gay Adoption

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By John Lyon
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LITTLE ROCK -- Supporters of Initiated Act 1 hope to add Arkansas to a small group of states with laws aimed at barring gays from adopting children in state custody.

The measure, which will appear on the Nov. 4 general election ballot, would ban unmarried couples living together from adopting or serving as foster parents in the state.

Early voting in the election begins Monday.

The conservative group Family Council submitted the ballot question after studying the laws of Mississippi, Florida and Utah, according to Executive Director Jerry Cox.

Mississippi has a law banning adoption by “couples of the same gender.” Florida’s law prohibits a person from adopting “if that person is a homosexual.”

The law in Utah prohibits adoption “by a person who is cohabiting in a relationship that is not a legally valid and binding marriage under the laws of this state” and says a child cannot be placed in foster care with anyone who would not qualify as an adoptive parent.

“The best legal advice that we had was that Utah was the most constitutionally sound law that was on the books,” Cox said.

Cox said the Family Council has made no secret of its intention to “blunt a gay agenda at work in Arkansas,” but the group concluded the measure would better withstand legal challenges if it did not single out gays.

“To say that it would for certain have been struck down had we mentioned homosexuals in the proposal, that’s not certain, but it would have opened the door for litigation and the possibility of it being struck down,” Cox said.

Arkansas Families First, a coalition opposed to the measure, argues the wording is still discriminatory.

“Whether you’re willing to discriminate against an entire class of gay and lesbian Americans or unmarried Americans, you’re discriminating either way,” said Brett Kincaid, the coalition’s campaign director.

Federal courts upheld Florida’s ban on adoption by gays in separate cases in 2001 and 2004. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal in the 2004 case.

A circuit judge in Florida ruled in August the 1977 law was unconstitutional, saying it violated the constitutional separation of powers by preventing judges from deciding case-by-case what was in the best interest of children.

Florida did not appeal the ruling. Legal experts said in the absence of a higher-court ruling, the judge’s opinion would not set a binding precedent.

Another challenge to the Florida law is now in the courts.

In Utah, a ban on adoption by unmarried couples was first put in place as a policy approved in 1999 by a vote of the board of directors of the state’s Division of Child and Family Services. Later the same year, Utah Children, a group opposed to the ban, sued the state over the policy.

While the case was still in court, the Utah Legislature passed a law banning unmarried couples from adopting or serving as foster parents, making the lawsuit moot.

The Utah chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union says on its Web site it opposes the law and is “on the lookout” for incidents of discrimination, though it has not challenged the law in court.

The debate in Arkansas also began over a state policy. In 1999, the state Child Welfare Agency Review Board approved a policy banning the placement of foster children in any household with a gay member.

In a case brought by the Arkansas chapter of the ACLU, Pulaski County Circuit Judge Timothy Fox ruled in 2004 the policy was unconstitutional because the board had overstepped its authority by trying to regulate “public morality.”

“The testimony and evidence overwhelmingly showed that there was no rational relationship between the ... blanket exclusion (of gays) and the health, safety and welfare of the foster children,” Fox wrote in his opinion. The state Supreme Court upheld Fox’s ruling in 2006.

In 2007, the Family Council backed a bill in the Legislature that would have put into law a ban on adoption or foster parenting by gays or unmarried couples living together. The bill died in a House committee after passing the Senate.

Until this month, the state Department of Human Services was operating under a 2005 directive that banned placing foster children with unmarried couples. The state has no such policy regarding adoptions by unmarried couples.

The agency held a public hearing on the foster care policy Oct. 2, and a week later the agency announced it would drop the policy and propose a new policy stating placement decisions will be made on a case-by-case basis.

The state will continue to operate under the 2005 directive until its new proposed policy has gone through a 30-day public-comment period. The Family Council has not decided whether to ask for a public hearing on the new policy, Vice President John Thomas said.

“That’s something we’ll certainly address after the election one way or the other if we need to. As far as we’re concerned, all options are on the table,” Thomas said.

Those options also could include another attempt to run a bill through the Legislature if the ballot question fails, he said.

If voters approve Initiated Act 1, a legal challenge could lie ahead.

“We’re looking into that possibility,” said Rita Sklar, executive director of the Arkansas chapter of the ACLU, though she said she believed voters would reject the measure.

Who's Watching The Foster Kids

• Married couples watch 48 percent of foster children

• Group homes, public or private youth facilities, family members or pre-adoption homes watch 33 percent

• Single females watch 11.7 percent

• Divorced females watch 6.2 percent

• Single males watch 0.4 percent

• Divorced males watch 0.3 percent

• Separated females watch 0.1 percent

Source: Arkansas Department of Human Services

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flamingo79 wrote on Oct 18, 2008 8:01 PM:

" I consider myself a moderate conservative, registered as a Republican, but must say that Jerry Cox and this horrendous group he represents does not speak for me or what I conser to be the republican party. Until and unless every member of this group undrgoes the process to become certified foster parents in Arkansas - this mean-spirited amenment must be defeated. I am a middle-age wife and mother - married for over 25 yeaars, raised college-educated children - self-employed - yes, we are the desirable home for foster children. We have raised "other people's children" - just not through the state. With the shortage of foster homes for children in need - we as a community simply must not close the door on a segment of prospective foster parents due to the lack of a marriage license. If all other standards are met, each family situation must be decided on it's own merit, not by some discrimantory rule. Please vote no on this amendment. "

sick people wrote on Oct 18, 2008 8:30 PM:

" I am sure GOD never intended for man nor woman to have same sex parents ,This is so immoral and Perverted ,feel sorry for the children of people that are so Selfish not to consider the child view for once.. "

masonstorm1958 wrote on Oct 18, 2008 9:02 PM:

" If this thing passes,then Mr.Cox will have legal cover to openly discriminate against selected segments of our state populace. Are we to be a party to, what is obviously will be, civil right violations against our own people? I had thought we as a people had risen above that. Do not give him the power to regulate moral behaviour. His thinking is regressive and not productive. "

illegalsout wrote on Oct 19, 2008 3:50 AM:

" Gee life is hard enough on kids now adays,why complicate their lives anymore than need be.If your gay/lesbian get a dog or a cat.
But leave the kids to the hetrosexuals,though not perfect it is the best option. "

Gramps wrote on Oct 19, 2008 7:46 AM:

" I know several Gays and Lesbians and they are nice people. But that does not make them qualified to adopt or have foster children. Children need balance in their lives. They need a mother and a father to give them that balance. Two fathers nor two mothers can provide that balance no matter how hard we twist words. It takes a man and a women to be a mother and father. I do not see why the LGBT want to open this can of worms as they cannot fit the bill no matter what they say. The Arkansas Constitution plainly states that a married couple consist of a man and a women. Gays and lesbians cannot procreate with their lifestyle and this should be proof enough that this lifestyle is not meant to have children. "

masonstorm1958 wrote on Oct 19, 2008 12:27 PM:

" There are those of you who put religion or personal feelings ahead of what is the best scenario for a child in foster care. I find that to be petty thinking. Here's why. At the moment their are too many kids who don't have a kind and loving enviorment to grow up in. The pool of quailified applicants for foster care and adoption has never been very big. Now they want to further restrict the quailfications to those who are religiously quailified. By that I mean a marriage sanctioned by the tenets of their faith. Which also implies that the couple has to be of two different sexes. Religion says that the choice to be gay or lesbian is just that a choice. Science says evidence points to an anomaly in our genetic makeup that forces some of us to act a different gender. They have no choice. It was taken away by the very structure of their DNA. Mind you I don't condone their lifstyle. But only because it is so foreign to me. Otherwise,they are just as loving and caring as the rest of us. Mr. Jerry Cox uses religion and ignorance to drive people to his agenda. It never was abbout the children with him, it's all about the power of the pulpit and how he can wield it. Give these kids a chance at a normal or near normal home enviorment to develope in. They will grow up and become productive people and citizens. "

greg19670 wrote on Oct 19, 2008 12:31 PM:

" Sexual orientation should have nothing to do with fostering or adoption. Look what happened when the state gave that guy all those boys to foster and he ended up molesting them. He wasn't openly homosexual. He was a deviant low life self righteous piece of garbage. As opposed to those that dont hide their life styles. "

w.o.l.f. wrote on Oct 19, 2008 1:44 PM:

" As a Christian, I am against foster kids from being placed in homosexual homes. The great thing about this country is that we have the right to voice our opinions. I would though, like to challenge every heterosexual couple who believes as I do, to open their homes to foster care. I'm willing to bet most won't though. Don't complain about the problem, if you are not willing to be part of the solution. "

mafm wrote on Oct 19, 2008 2:19 PM:

" I guess that everyone has for gotten about Sodom and Gamorah? God destroyed both those cities for their sexual immorality, because men slept with men and women with women. do you think that God has changed His mind about all of that? or do you Think that He has turned a blind eye to homosexuality? God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, He has not changed nor will He. He didn't condone it then and he won't put up with it now. Could it be that's the reason why New Orleans got destroyed? People need to turn from their ways or suffer the wrath of God "

HeardItAll wrote on Oct 19, 2008 4:53 PM:

" Wow, do you really think 100's of innocent men, women, and children were killed by God as punishment for homosexuality? "

BigTex wrote on Oct 19, 2008 8:23 PM:

" Don't adopted kids have enough potential problems without the added issue of gay parents? Don't we owe it to children to give them as normal a childhood as possible? "

jopa wrote on Oct 20, 2008 6:58 AM:

" I am so sorry that there are so many closed minded people out there. How many of you have even spoke with someone who has an alternitive life style. Most of them are COLLEGE degree professionals. fantastic families Wonderful homes, can give the best of eveything. You people act like they are going to molest the child. They are just like everyone else. They have like and dislikes and if you look at the pedifile ratio it is the HETROS that are doing the majority. It boils down to who can provide the best home enviroment. who can provide the best clothes and schools. why dont you look before becoming so judgemental. before You ask, I am straight as an arrow. But my frieds and co-workers that are gay I would have no problem leaving my kids with them. "

Jumbojet wrote on Oct 20, 2008 7:23 AM:

" Let the MAJORITY decide! A Democracy is supposed to be about MAJORITY rule.

When we fail to let the MAJORITY rule, we have anarchy - just about the current state of politics in the USA!

Will the MAJORITY always be correct in their choices? NO. But that is the chance we take with a DEMOCRACY.

The problem I see is that there are too many people that DO NOT really support a Democracy today. "

UAfootball wrote on Oct 20, 2008 8:08 AM:

" mafm...if you think Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed soley on the fact that there were homosexuals in those places, you should really read your bible more. I will keep you in my prayers. "

scout65708 wrote on Oct 20, 2008 9:33 AM:

" So Adam and Steve want to have a little boy to raise? Don't you see how sick this is? I'm sure there are some real nice homosexual couples out there. And I'm sure there are some messed up heterosexual couples out there. But to role the dice with a child's life, and stick him or her with a couple already predisposed to being a perversion of nature is just wrong. "

UAfootball wrote on Oct 20, 2008 11:47 AM:

" as opposed to sticking the child with a dysfunctional "married" family in Eudora, Arkansas and allowing the child to be murdered...yep, this is the best option.
What a backwards bunch of people some of you are! Shame on you! "

melter wrote on Oct 20, 2008 12:00 PM:

" a marriage license does not confirm moral superiority, neither does alternate lifestyles guarantee dysfunction and perversion. I cannot make myself believe that an individual will be forsaken for having (responsibly) cared for a child in need. God forgive those who deny a child an opportunity for a loving home from their soap box of ignorance. I believe ther will be a judgement day, and I, for the sake of humanity, am willing to take my chances! "

masonstorm1958 wrote on Oct 20, 2008 12:12 PM:

" UAfootball: That's because they are letting their religion get in the way of any rational thinking. They blindly believe any thing that comes out of that great work of Science Fiction and Fantasy, the Bible. Reason is a four letter word to this crowd. You can't use it with them because of their irrational thinking. Since science is the antithesis of religion, how can you expect logic to enaminate from their collective psychosis? In such a rebuttal, they will only try to shout you down instead of quietly putting forward a reflective response. Their emotionalism is just an indicator of their lack of judgemental qualities necessary to the battle of ideas. You can't teach a child a gay lifestyle without the child being predispose to it in the first place. That has been proven by science. So what we are getting in these blogs is nothing less than ignorance when it comes to their rebuttals. "

Jones wrote on Oct 20, 2008 12:22 PM:

" You bet I am voting for this Act 1... If you want to be Gay fine, but don't get kids confused on what God has ESTABLISHED as a married couple. Adopt a Dog or Cat if you so want to...Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Children are to be raise by Other than Father and Mother... just because some human law might say its OK does not make it right. I understand there a lot of kids out there in need of parents but you have to draw the line somewhere...GAY people should not be given the right to ADOPT simple as daylight. Confusing a child in such a way is not moral... GOD created the rules and you bet they are the right ones, GOD does not make mistakes. In that same note, SAY NO TO ABORTION! "

UAfootball wrote on Oct 20, 2008 12:59 PM:

" ok Jones, let's say that a woman has a child on her own, then later in life she has a female partner. Is she now suddenly an unfit mother? Should her child be removed from the home just because you think she is immoral?

Childern are not born rasicts, sexist, or homophobic. This is a learned behavior that YOU and people like you endorse and push on childern. People like you are the reason why childern get confused. "

Welcome to America wrote on Oct 20, 2008 1:21 PM:

" I think this bill is a good thing and I hope it passes. When kids are taken out of their homes they are in a delicate situation already why add more pressure. I was adopted and understand the hardships of foster families. And to Masonstorm you want to get all over christians about OUR intolerance... think of how people like you treat christians. If anyone is discriminated against it is us... I am sorry that you would rather lean on science (which can be just as made up as you want to say the bible is) and that is your choice but don't storm us for intolerance unless you are willing to admit your own intolerance and ignorance "

scout65708 wrote on Oct 20, 2008 2:06 PM:

" Ok UAFootball, children are not born homosexual, it is a learned behavior. "

Missed wrote on Oct 20, 2008 6:20 PM:

" I must have been absent the day they went over how to be Gay vs. Straight. I grew up in a small town, didn't know a single gay person, but somehow I mangaged to end up that way. Anybody who thinks it's a CHOICE to be gay must be smokin' something. Why would anybody choose a life where they are discriminated against, hated, and frequently disowned by their own family. Tell me, how did you learn to be straight??? "

masonstorm1958 wrote on Oct 20, 2008 11:42 PM:

" Welcome to America: While I may have intolerance of supernatural belief systems,ignorance is not a problem. You see,I went to Bible school right along with the rest of you and listen to sermons from the local shaman. I probably know the Bible as well as any layman. By twelve I had reasoned out for myself the utter hypocrisy and absurdity of religion and any god oriented belief system. Through my research I have found religion to be the number two cause of human death throughout history. Population pressure was number one. Historically, religion has held humankind back from acheiving their full potential. By condeming those whose thirst for knowledge was for the betterment of man. Why a thinking man just might question the Church's authority and relevance. Can't have that now can we? I believe it is a concept that this race will eventually outgrow as the species matures and reaches out to join the community of space faring civilizations. Superstitution will become a thing of the past. "

Jones wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:16 AM:

" So UAfootball, what you are saying is that been Gay is a Choice, right? My point exactly if you want to be gay well its your decision but don't confuse children of the Wrong behavior and your own action that GOD himself has pointed out as a SIN....if God had intended for couples of the same sex to have children they would, with out the need to adopt...BUT HE didn't, a woman can't have a child by another woman. GOD's Laws and he does NOT make mistakes. "

Jones wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:24 AM:

" masonstorm1958 if you beleive you came and ivolved from a monkey than i guess you will act like one....who is your god, KING KONG? You got problems, consider getting help, seriously. Maybe, just maybe have you sit to wonder, masonstorm1958, if your disability is a punishment from God because of your Blasphemy....mmm I wonder. Well you can ask him when he calls you to answer for your actions in this world. "

swampman wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:07 PM:

" Some of us are getting out of line again not one of the people who have commented is fit to judge the other including me that is for GOD to do. Bottom line a loving person has a good chance of raising a loving child. Discrimination is against the law we all agreed to that, so this ACT 1 is illegal gee I wonder if that is why church and state are to be kept apart that to is the law thank GOD. "

cscheile wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:31 PM:

" 1: Everyone stay out of my bedroom. It's none of your business, and you'd be bored anyway. 2: The Bible Thumpers need to remember "...judge not lest ye be judged." Also remind yourselves that the Jihad are the "Holy Warriors", not us. And, finally, 3: If you were a child that has never known a stable, loving, supportive, encouraging, home with people that actually wanted you there and who might actually be truly concerned about you well being...if YOU were this innocent child who does not judge except by the standards of those around you,...would you not want such a fairytale to be true? Would you not want these people to want you just because they do, that you're special to them, or at least they think so?
I leave this with you as my final thought. How many homosexuals do you actually know? Are you sure they're the only ones? If you needed a bed and a meal would it really matter that much to you if they were gay or not? "

Jones wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:48 PM:

" cscheile, answer me these, if you were a Gay person who has adopted a child, would you tell and teach that child what GOD himself has said that homosexuality is a Sin and he does not approve of it? or would you confuse and teach that child your own believes without the approval of God's own rules? "

masonstorm1958 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:41 PM:

" Jones: Sorry you took my commentary to be personal. But your reply is a shinning example of a knee jerk response. No reasoning went in to your little tirade. Be honest, you vented because of how seriously you view your faith. Made you mad as hades. Your belief system is part of what is holding back our race. All we can logically do is agree to disagree. We both have our opinions, which are diametrically oppose to each other. In the future of our species, only one will prevail. Sure, you think yours will. I expect that. But as science and technology advances, people will slowly start questioning the need for myths and belief systems that involve the supernatural. By the way, getting in my face with future posts will only leave you frustrated and violently irate. If you are man enough to keep it civil, I will debate our differences. Opposing ideas should be battled out in a public forum for all to reflect on. I take the cosmopolitian approach in my views and opinions. I rarely allow emotion into a discussing. It distracts you from the main point. Of course this only works in a lititary aspect. "

Welcome to America wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:42 PM:

" I think one big thing is religion is being confused with discrimination. I don't discriminate I don't support and there is a HUGE difference. I don't hate nor dislike anyone who is gay. I dislike the lifestyle that they lead. I am sure that their are as many wonderful homosexual people as their are the amount of terrible people who are hetrosexual. My opinion is based on what I feel would be best for kids. I have been a ward of the court and in this situation and I think that taking someone from a situation and placing them into another difficult situation is not fair to the kid. People are cruel and to think that they would get teased because of their "parents" lifestyle is just ignorant. Why put someone who already has it hard into a harder situation. And masonstorm their is a difference in religion and faith. I cling to faith not religion. I hope that you find it but like you said we are all entitled to believe what we want. As for me and my house we will serve the LORD "

Jones wrote on Oct 21, 2008 4:21 PM:

" Amen to that, Welcome to America.... "

missed wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:19 PM:

" Bullhockey if you say that this is not discrimination. Read the definition:

Treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit. "

melter wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:04 AM:

" Welcome to America-you've acknowledged good in diversity and bad in traditional lifestyles. How then can you continue to judged? Why not acknowledge the happy healthy moral children that come from non-traditional households. You only acknowledged the ones that will potentially "suffer". I agree with "missed" You absolutely ARE discriminating, but your ignorance has allowed you to "justify" your own opinion. Your beliefs are just as deviate as the ones you judge only you have been taught that you are justified. My partner and I have raised 4 happy healthy moral and successful children in nwa. we have taken in a troubled teen who was headed to the juvi system. He is making great strides. Our home is the preferred hang out for the kids and thier parents. Parents thank us regularly for giving the kids a safe place to hang and for the time we invest in providing wholesome activity for them. Are we successful because we are gay? No!! We are successful because we are humane, we care, we are not bias, and we are consistant. You could do the same, if you take off the blinders "

Welcome to America wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:50 AM:

" there is a difference in opinion and judgement. I am not going to debate whay type of person someone is based on their lifestyle choice but I am not going to sit here and say that I think something is ok when I don't agree with it. Same as you are saying. You don't think that I am right in saying that children should be in a home with a father and a mother so does that mean that you are judging me for my belief? People are way to quick to pull the judgement and discrimination card. "

Jones wrote on Oct 22, 2008 12:12 PM:

" Welcome to America I am with you 100%! As a matter of fact, I am going to go TODAY and vote "Yes" to Act 1!!! "

Moonglow wrote on Oct 22, 2008 1:39 PM:

" If you notice, there are more pedophiles that are straight than the ones that are gay. "

mafm wrote on Oct 22, 2008 4:13 PM:

" First off if you say that homosexuality can't be a learned thing your wrong, if you stay in or around a situation like that long enough it WILL get a hold of you, see homosexuality is a spiritual attack , people don't just choose to become gay as you want to call it. They are under a spiritual attack that they just can't walk away from on their own power, (As Jesus said: these only come out by PRAYER AND FASTING) He didn't just mean the demons that were afflicting that man at that time, if you are bound by those kind of SPIRITS then they can come on the children you are raising. Second i don't need any free spirited Leb who thinks that its ok to be a homosexual praying for me so keep your prayers to yourself (uafootball). This isn't just some fairy tale mumbo jumbo the Bible is real and these things are still happening today, just look around you. oh i forgot the Bible also says they have eyes but they can't see, ears but they can't hear, so i guess i need to stop casting pearls of wisdom before swine. bottom line is that God hates homosexuality. and He did destroy not one but two cities because of it. The men in those cities even wanted to have sex with the Angles. how sick. May God get a hold of all who are lost and confused. "

mafm wrote on Oct 22, 2008 4:35 PM:

" Also God created man and WOMEN (ADAM AND EVE) not Adam and Steve. He never intended for men to be with men or women with women. He said that when He created Adam that it wasn't good for man to be alone so He created a help mate for him Women, So any other life style as every one wants to call it is out of the will of God and He will deal with the problem as He has before, If you have a problem with that then you need to take it up with God, He's the one who made the laws of sin and He's the only one who can take them away. He said that He is the way the truth and the life and that no one comes unto the Father except but through Him. there is no other way to get into heaven, you can't buy your way into it and just being a nice person won't get you their either, It is by Grace that you are saved through Faith not of works so that no one can boast" OH yea, and buy the way the Bible was scientifically proven to be.....CORRECT what a shocker. May God Bless and keep those who truly seek His face. "

BigTex wrote on Oct 22, 2008 6:02 PM:

" Homosexuals do not have special rights under either Arkansas or Federal law. Thus, it's perfectly legal to discriminate against homosexuals in Arkansas.

Furthermore, there are many other classes of people against whom it's legal to discriminate including: fat people, ugly people, people who went to the "wrong" university, people who smell funny, people from another region of the united states, people who drive old cars, people of a different socio-economic level and the list goes on...

To the supporters of gay "rights": If you have ever discriminated against members of any of the classes of people mentioned above who do not enjoy protected status and yet you agitate for special rights for gays then you are a hypocrite. "

Welcome to America wrote on Oct 22, 2008 8:56 PM:

" cscheile you need to read your bible. God most certainly does hate homosexuallity, but you are confusing hating homosexuallity with hating homosexuals. God doesn't hate anyone he hates their sin and yes in the Bible God says that homosexuality is a sin. And to your son I have a friend that I went to high school with who is homosexual and I didn't find out until we were out of school. Have I turned my back on her NO she is still my friend but she understands that I don't approve of her lifestyle. Like I said before people are WAY to quick to pull the judgement card and discrimination card just because some one has a different opinion. you need to understand the difference... "

Welcome to America wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:00 PM:

" cscheile also please show me one point where I said anything that implied that I hate someone because they are gay or the only time I used the word hate is biblical and you can grab any translation of the word of God you want and find that......... "

swampman wrote on Oct 24, 2008 3:42 PM:

" The bible this the bible that you people holding your bible like its your privates GOD is holding his nose. And he wants you to stop using his good book like a club to beat others down with. You call me a racist I have seen more people cast aside by you church going brother loving types than any hate group dreamed. "

ecsmith2 wrote on Oct 26, 2008 12:12 PM:

" BigTex: I am moving to NWA soon and have been interested in the culture there. But I haven't seen anything that straight, white males have special rights under Arkansas law.

Who does have special rights under Arkansas law?

And what do you mean by "discriminate against" the groups of people you listed?

I think any of the people you list tried to rent an apartment from you, and you tried to refuse them just because of the group you include them in, I think you would be spending some time in a court trying to explain your actions. "

AmaresDivision wrote on Nov 28, 2008 2:59 AM:

" Umm..hahaha...let me get this straight..hahaha...straight people have children and ABANDON them for one stupid reason or another as they give them up for adoption BUT...Love means little when it comes to adoption and only straight people can adopt because its better for the abandoned child?Hahahahhahhahaahahhaha.
First you have straight parents AND their immeadiate families who abandon and let the child be abandoned..then you impose a law saying Gay people who want to love the child CANT adopt them because GOD says Gays cant marry yet God also says Straights cant commit adultry..yet that happens every second of the day..hahahhahhaa. Straight people make these stupid laws...Im starting to wonder IF all straight people are as evil as they are ignorant. "

AmaresDivision wrote on Nov 28, 2008 3:07 AM:

" Oh hahaha..Adam and Eve...you forgot to add the snake which is represents another person that was MADE..so it is aparent that you can have more than one partner acording to the bible because EVE slept with both the snake and Adam...NOTE she had twins..cain and able by two different men..hahahaha...Okay so lets all have multipule fathers for our children...hahahahaa..If your going to bring the bible up...READ it and know what it says...Again thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife...Thou shalt not comit adultry...hahaha..how many laws are made to enforce those MAJOR LAWS of GOD???? "

AmaresDivision wrote on Nov 28, 2008 3:18 AM:

" At this very moment I have 2 young straight men living in my home LEARNING values that their STRAIGHT parents Never taught them. IN FACT their parents dropped them off at my home Begging me to help straighten them out and get them on the RIGHT path...the path of being productive people in society...now that is truly FUNNY...hahaha...Straight people abandon their children and then place laws saying only other screwed up straight people can adopt them..hahahha...Since MOST gay people were raised by straight parents they have an array of understandings both homosexaul and hetro...however straight parents have no clue on how to deal with a gay child...in fact because straight people have no clue here the child suffers for years reconfiguring their brain AND their heart. "

AmaresDivision wrote on Nov 28, 2008 3:19 AM:

" Funnt thing is the abandon young men ARE STRAIGHT...hahahhahahhaha...and i am gay...hahahhahahha "

AmaresDivision wrote on Nov 28, 2008 3:26 AM:

" To get around the laws here is what you do that IS legal...Let staight people know you are willing to PROVIDE for and GUIDE their children. Straight people love FREE Stuff and they love the easy way out...If you remember this straight people will happily hand over their children. At first they will call periodically to check on their children as to pretending to care and love them, but over time...the calls stop. You only need call them to do the minor things such as signing them into school etc..they will be happy to oblidge you so long as they are not out of pocketing any money OR a great deal of time. This is very sad but very true. "

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