Clinton Urges Arkansans To Take Historic Step
Last updated Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:16 PM CDT in News
By Peggy Harris
The Associated Press
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PINE BLUFF -- Bill Clinton and leading Arkansas Democrats appealed Saturday to voters statewide to make national history by putting Barack Obama in the White House.
In typical Clinton fashion, the former president arrived late for the get-out-the-vote rally. But, also in Clinton style, he invigorated an already lively crowd of some 1,500 Obama supporters after they had attended a college homecoming parade.
“I can be very brief about this. Barack Obama is going to win this election,” Clinton said as applause and cheers drowned out his words. “And he’s going to win it well, big, and he’s going to win because he’s a good candidate, because he’s got a great vice presidential partner, because he’s got the best positions on the issues and because our country is in struggle.”
One after another Arkansas’ top Democrats took the stage to tout Obama’s credentials. Former U.S. Sens. David Pryor and Dale Bumpers, Sen. Mark Pryor, Rep. Mike Ross, Gov. Mike Beebe, former U.S. Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater, and former Gov. Jim Guy Tucker each said Arkansas and the country needs Obama to lead them.
A recent poll shows Obama trailing in Arkansas, which has not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since Clinton’s re-election in 1996. Bush carried the state in 2000 and 2004. In the University of Arkansas poll, 51 percent of registered voters surveyed said they would vote for Republican John McCain while 36 percent said they support Obama.
Loyal to their former governor and first lady, Arkansas Democrats threw their support to Hillary Rodham Clinton in the primary, while the prospect of electing the first female president or putting the first African-American in the White House passionately divided Democrats around the country.
In an appeal to his wife’s die-hard supporters, Clinton told the crowd Saturday that she has been working just as hard for Obama as she did for herself in her own campaign.
Clinton said Obama has the leadership qualities needed to fix the country’s financial crisis and stop mortgage foreclosures so people can get credit again. The Illinois senator has the best healthcare plans and can bring an end to the Iraq war, reverse U.S. dependence on foreign oil, and reduce global warming, Clinton said.
Obama will win the Nov. 4 election, Clinton said, because of what the country has gone through under a Republican president for the last eight years.
“We got to see for most of President Bush’s term what would actually happen to America if the extreme right-wing philosophy that he and his allies in the Republican Party had advocated for the last 30 years were actually made real in the lives of the American people,” he said.
Academy award-winning actress Mary Steenburgen, a native Arkansan who also has a residence in the state, appeared on stage. She did not address the crowd, but Clinton said she had asked him to urge them to vote against an Arkansas ballot proposal that would ban gays from being foster parents or adopting children.
Clinton and the state Democratic powerhouses began their two-day campaign in North Little Rock on Friday. After the Pine Bluff event, they headed to Jonesboro for a closing rally.
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Robert5000 wrote on Oct 25, 2008 7:49 PM:
" cont.1
But what about Barack Obama? The New York Times in its endorsement of Barack Obama said: Mr. Obama has met challenge after challenge, growing as a leader and putting real flesh on his early promises of hope and change. He has shown a cool head and sound judgment. We believe he has the will and the ability to forge the broad political consensus that is essential to finding solutions to this nations problems.
In the same time, Senator John McCain of Arizona has retreated farther and farther to the fringe of American politics, running a campaign on partisan division, class warfare and even hints of racism. His policies and worldview are mired in the past. His choice of a running mate so evidently unfit for the office was a final act of opportunism and bad judgment that eclipsed the accomplishments of 26 years in Congress. "
But what about Barack Obama? The New York Times in its endorsement of Barack Obama said: Mr. Obama has met challenge after challenge, growing as a leader and putting real flesh on his early promises of hope and change. He has shown a cool head and sound judgment. We believe he has the will and the ability to forge the broad political consensus that is essential to finding solutions to this nations problems.
In the same time, Senator John McCain of Arizona has retreated farther and farther to the fringe of American politics, running a campaign on partisan division, class warfare and even hints of racism. His policies and worldview are mired in the past. His choice of a running mate so evidently unfit for the office was a final act of opportunism and bad judgment that eclipsed the accomplishments of 26 years in Congress. "
Robert5000 wrote on Oct 25, 2008 7:49 PM:
" cont.2
Senator John McCain is a respected 72 year old American warrior, but he is on a path whose slope, however gentle, is downward. On the contrary Senator Barack Obama is an intelligent, articulate, and insightful 47 year old American whose best years lie ahead of him; a man who graduated near the top of his class at Harvard Law School and was president of its Law Review; a man who understands and respects the American constitution because he was an instructor of constitutional law for 12 years at the University of Chicago Law School; a man familiar with the American legislative process because he served 3 terms as an Illinois State Senator and for the past 4 years as a US Senator; a man acquainted with Washington but one who also brings fresh ideas and a passion for bringing about important and necessary changes in Washington. Senator Barack Obama is a man of equanimity, keen intellect, clear vision, sound judgment, and steadfast determination. He is the man America needs today, and also the man who can lead America tomorrow. It is time for Americans everywhere to cast their ballots for Barack Obama. It is time for Barack Obama to become Americas 44th president. "
Senator John McCain is a respected 72 year old American warrior, but he is on a path whose slope, however gentle, is downward. On the contrary Senator Barack Obama is an intelligent, articulate, and insightful 47 year old American whose best years lie ahead of him; a man who graduated near the top of his class at Harvard Law School and was president of its Law Review; a man who understands and respects the American constitution because he was an instructor of constitutional law for 12 years at the University of Chicago Law School; a man familiar with the American legislative process because he served 3 terms as an Illinois State Senator and for the past 4 years as a US Senator; a man acquainted with Washington but one who also brings fresh ideas and a passion for bringing about important and necessary changes in Washington. Senator Barack Obama is a man of equanimity, keen intellect, clear vision, sound judgment, and steadfast determination. He is the man America needs today, and also the man who can lead America tomorrow. It is time for Americans everywhere to cast their ballots for Barack Obama. It is time for Barack Obama to become Americas 44th president. "
cybertech wrote on Oct 25, 2008 8:49 PM:
" Wellllll if ya want BIG Government, Socialized Health Care, Higher Taxes as well as a Socialized Tax System, and more deficit, go right ahead and vote for the above.
He's one heck of a speaker when prompted but out of the box, sorry, he is just not ready yet in my opinion.
I will not say that McCain is the 100% best, but sorry again in my opinion and given the only two viable options, he's better than "the one", lol.
My opinion being based upon my research into the truth of everything and not buying into much of what the media or polls say.
Did we have better choices in the primaries?? Absolutely! Now we are down to the lesser of two evils unfortunately, and again sorry but "the one", lol, is just not quite ready yet. "
He's one heck of a speaker when prompted but out of the box, sorry, he is just not ready yet in my opinion.
I will not say that McCain is the 100% best, but sorry again in my opinion and given the only two viable options, he's better than "the one", lol.
My opinion being based upon my research into the truth of everything and not buying into much of what the media or polls say.
Did we have better choices in the primaries?? Absolutely! Now we are down to the lesser of two evils unfortunately, and again sorry but "the one", lol, is just not quite ready yet. "
aijcadd wrote on Oct 25, 2008 10:21 PM:
" I will be voting Obama, not really a Pro-Obama vote as much as it is an anti-McCain vote. I am suprised more people aren't holding the Republican party more liable for 8 years of Bush. Maybe with a Democrate President and Congress we can get something accomplished. I doubt we will have more taxes, but I am sure we will have more debt. But the alternative is John McCain who will just make his wealth and his wealthy buddies wealthier. Trickle economics will only trickle down overseas due to our globalizaion leaving us as bottom feeders in the economy struggling to survive. At least Obama is aware that we are hurting. Mr. 100 million dollar McCain probably wouldn't notice America is hurting if gas was $1000 a gallon. The only reason he is preaching it to "his friends" is because his advisors told him America is hurting. Gee, I feel better now getting that off my chest... "
cybertech wrote on Oct 25, 2008 11:27 PM:
" Trickle Economics has always been in play will be more so in the future. Only thing is that it will be the lower classes that will feel the punch the hardest.
Do you really think that by taxing corporate business and anyone that makes over $250 grand a year that the lower classes arent going to get punched even harder than they are now? If you dont believe so then you are deluding yourself.
For instance say Obama makes it in and begins to tax say big oil companies, and yes I agree that they make to much already, but here is the deal, so the oil companies are getting taxed more, which in turn cuts into their profit margin, how do you think they will make that loss up??? If you guessed by padding the costs on to the consumer you guessed correctly. The same will go with any other corporation or industry.
Contd........... "
Do you really think that by taxing corporate business and anyone that makes over $250 grand a year that the lower classes arent going to get punched even harder than they are now? If you dont believe so then you are deluding yourself.
For instance say Obama makes it in and begins to tax say big oil companies, and yes I agree that they make to much already, but here is the deal, so the oil companies are getting taxed more, which in turn cuts into their profit margin, how do you think they will make that loss up??? If you guessed by padding the costs on to the consumer you guessed correctly. The same will go with any other corporation or industry.
Contd........... "
cybertech wrote on Oct 25, 2008 11:34 PM:
" Contd........... I heard a dem on the news the other day say "there is no such thing as double taxation!" and he said so many times emphatically. How deluded can one person be to believe such poppycock?
Of course there is double taxation! They take taxes out of every paycheck you earn to the tune of approx 24%, every single payday, then at the end of the year when you file, very rarely do you see all that money back, in fact you will most likely pay in, like it or not when you dont get back all you paid in, or you pay in more at the end of the year, you just paid a second tax on your income as well as extra taxes on assets.
Now as to a Democratic Congress getting anything done?? LOL For the last 4 years the Dems have held the majority seat and as well have pushed more than their fair share of pork, and to this day not much has been done.
The current economic turmoil can likewise be traced back to do nothing greedy dems.
Contd........... "
Of course there is double taxation! They take taxes out of every paycheck you earn to the tune of approx 24%, every single payday, then at the end of the year when you file, very rarely do you see all that money back, in fact you will most likely pay in, like it or not when you dont get back all you paid in, or you pay in more at the end of the year, you just paid a second tax on your income as well as extra taxes on assets.
Now as to a Democratic Congress getting anything done?? LOL For the last 4 years the Dems have held the majority seat and as well have pushed more than their fair share of pork, and to this day not much has been done.
The current economic turmoil can likewise be traced back to do nothing greedy dems.
Contd........... "
cybertech wrote on Oct 25, 2008 11:44 PM:
" Contd...................
Now just to be fair here I am not saying that there were not any republicans with their hands in the cookie jar as well as I am not foolish enough nor am I deluded enough to believe that they didnt, I know some did.
One question I want anyone to consider here is "how much government do you want in your personal business???".
Another thing is that if you have ever read up on socialism, marxism, or even communism, and history one proof of history is that none of them work and in fact in almost every country that employed such governmental tactics, they put people further in the poorhouse than we have ever experienced in the US short of the decade of the great depression.
I used to work with salesmen/women I got used to being able to spot a sales pitch almost instantly, there is an insincerity about a sales pitch that roars out through the rhetoric.
I just cant in good conscience vote for a candidate that believes that bigger government, socialized health care, socialized taxation, and one blatantly said that he wanted to "spread the wealth".
So I am left with the alternative. Which I think is better based upon what I have seen and read, and no not in the media or on blogs either. "
Now just to be fair here I am not saying that there were not any republicans with their hands in the cookie jar as well as I am not foolish enough nor am I deluded enough to believe that they didnt, I know some did.
One question I want anyone to consider here is "how much government do you want in your personal business???".
Another thing is that if you have ever read up on socialism, marxism, or even communism, and history one proof of history is that none of them work and in fact in almost every country that employed such governmental tactics, they put people further in the poorhouse than we have ever experienced in the US short of the decade of the great depression.
I used to work with salesmen/women I got used to being able to spot a sales pitch almost instantly, there is an insincerity about a sales pitch that roars out through the rhetoric.
I just cant in good conscience vote for a candidate that believes that bigger government, socialized health care, socialized taxation, and one blatantly said that he wanted to "spread the wealth".
So I am left with the alternative. Which I think is better based upon what I have seen and read, and no not in the media or on blogs either. "
lifer66 wrote on Oct 26, 2008 3:35 AM:
" Obama may win, but only because he had many more millions of dollars in his war chest and virtually every major media outlet unashamedly campaigning for his election. There is no longer such thing as journalistic objectivity. Jesus Christ himself couldn't defeat Obama under these conditions. It's all rigged. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 26, 2008 7:44 AM:
" Obama's experience is as a community organizer and Senator. Most of his time in the Senate he has been campaigning. Do we really want to have someone leading our country who has only been a community organizer and has so little experience. By the way...what is a community organizer anyway?? "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 26, 2008 7:46 AM:
" Also...in a Presidential election, the Clintons have done very little true campaigning. If Obama gets elected, Hillary can't run again in 4 years. Do you really think the Clinton's want Obama to win??? "
BCR wrote on Oct 26, 2008 10:00 AM:
" I voted Obama because the country needs a change. The change is not done. Congress is still the problem. Pork spending needs to stop, bail-outs need to stop, and our foreign policy needs to stop. We need to stop giving tax breaks to US based companies that take our money, and send jobs overseas. We need to stop spending $10 billion in a country that doesn't want us there.
As to "big" government in our private business, do you enjoy having all of your e-mails, phone calls, bank accounts, and travel monitored by Homeland security? As for health care, well most Americans don't have ANY. Can't afford ANY. As for "Socialism", well, just how do you think our current tax system works? Remember, it was Bush's idea to invest Social Security in the stock market... "
As to "big" government in our private business, do you enjoy having all of your e-mails, phone calls, bank accounts, and travel monitored by Homeland security? As for health care, well most Americans don't have ANY. Can't afford ANY. As for "Socialism", well, just how do you think our current tax system works? Remember, it was Bush's idea to invest Social Security in the stock market... "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 26, 2008 10:34 AM:
" BCR, I agree there needs to be change. You state "Congress is still a problem." Do you honestly believe a Democratic President and Congress will make changes? The only changes that will be made will hurt this country even more. If Obama is elected, I predict that by the next presidential election, everyone will be screaming for change. "
BCR wrote on Oct 26, 2008 11:37 AM:
" Congress is "supposed" to be you. They are supposed to represent your interests. They don't, and THAT'S the problem. Special interests, lobbyists, and corporations have the ear of Congress, not us. The President can ask for legislation, he can't make it. Congress has the deciding vote. If we as Americans don't make our needs and desires known, nothing will change. It used to be that in order to be heard, you had to call or write a letter to your congressman. With the electronic age, it's as simple as clicking on a link, and typing a message. Yet we don't bother to even do that. Obama was right in his early speeches. Washington is broken. We'd better figure out how to fix it or we're all going to be sorry. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 26, 2008 12:34 PM:
" BCR, I agree Congress does not represent the people. Voting for an inexperienced person for president will not change that. At least John McCain has the leadership experience and doesn't take earmarks. We need real change not just someone who talks a good game but has nothing to back it up. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 26, 2008 12:41 PM:
" Our country is in a crisis. We are vunerable to attack from terrorists as well as economically. We need someone with experience who is not afraid to stand up for our country. If you believe the far left and the media, Sarah Palin has no experience. Did you know that the 49th Missile Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is our first line of missle interceptor defense? They are the only National Guard Unit on permanent active duty. Sarah Palin is the Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard and is routinely briefed on highly classified issues, homeland security and counter terrorism. She also holds a higher security clearance that Obama or Biden. Doesn't sound like inexperience to me.
Biden said that Obama would be tested in the first 6 months. I for one do not want our country to be a casualty of his training and learning experience. "
Biden said that Obama would be tested in the first 6 months. I for one do not want our country to be a casualty of his training and learning experience. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 26, 2008 1:22 PM:
" I feel we are darned if we do and darn if we don't. We have so many problems on so many levels and I do worry about our country. It is time for us to just take back our country. All have good points. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 26, 2008 2:38 PM:
" I agree Ozarks. I am not saying John McCain is the perfect person just the lesser of two evils so to speak. If the citizens of the United States do not band together and take our country back things will get much worse. "
mec wrote on Oct 27, 2008 6:41 AM:
" illegalsout-may God have mercy on your nonchristian racist soul.
There is a better way to decide the better presedential candidate and that is to evaluate where Mr. Obama came.
Illinois....a corrupt and bankrupt state. The governor, Blagoavich, is close to indictment because of his dealings with Tony Rezko. You remember the same guy Senator Obama is associated with and from whom he got his house and land. The state is financially bankrupt and cannot pay it's healthcare bills or any other bill due for that matter. Senator Obama voted to allow scissors to stab an unborn baby's brain. Senator Obama supported Illinois Senator "Turbin" Durbin and his position regarding our military'a "gullag" status. Senator Obama is associated and supportive of Chicago's Mayor Daley. The mayor initiated the no gun law in Chicago. It allows only criminals to possess guns, which has given Chicago the murder capital of the nation award. Chicago had more murders than New York and Los Angeles. Then, of course, Senator Obama's relationship with Ayers, the self professed and nonrepentent anti-american bomber. These are real issues that Americans better face before they vote for him. His campaign slogan should read..Change the US to what I am familiar with.. Illinois and Chicago!!! That's what we're going to get if he's voted in as president. "
There is a better way to decide the better presedential candidate and that is to evaluate where Mr. Obama came.
Illinois....a corrupt and bankrupt state. The governor, Blagoavich, is close to indictment because of his dealings with Tony Rezko. You remember the same guy Senator Obama is associated with and from whom he got his house and land. The state is financially bankrupt and cannot pay it's healthcare bills or any other bill due for that matter. Senator Obama voted to allow scissors to stab an unborn baby's brain. Senator Obama supported Illinois Senator "Turbin" Durbin and his position regarding our military'a "gullag" status. Senator Obama is associated and supportive of Chicago's Mayor Daley. The mayor initiated the no gun law in Chicago. It allows only criminals to possess guns, which has given Chicago the murder capital of the nation award. Chicago had more murders than New York and Los Angeles. Then, of course, Senator Obama's relationship with Ayers, the self professed and nonrepentent anti-american bomber. These are real issues that Americans better face before they vote for him. His campaign slogan should read..Change the US to what I am familiar with.. Illinois and Chicago!!! That's what we're going to get if he's voted in as president. "
BCR wrote on Oct 27, 2008 10:11 AM:
" Serving in Congress for 30 years does not make you a leader, it makes you a survivor. McCain's learned the game, and plays it well. I would rather have an intelligent leader who has spent enough time there to see the problems, and devise a plan to fix it. Putting McCain in is simply taking one of the "good ole boys" out of one building, and putting him in another.
McCain's economic plan is basically an extension of Bush's. US companies have been taking these tax breaks for years and have used them to create stock dividends, not jobs. Obama wants to tie those breaks to real job creation.
McCain had a chance in the beginning. Palin has been his downfall. The thought of having pit-bull-sockermom-joe six-pack Sarah in charge makes me cringe. As for testing the new president... Are you aware of the fact that Russia is getting very cozy with Chavez in Venezuela? "
McCain's economic plan is basically an extension of Bush's. US companies have been taking these tax breaks for years and have used them to create stock dividends, not jobs. Obama wants to tie those breaks to real job creation.
McCain had a chance in the beginning. Palin has been his downfall. The thought of having pit-bull-sockermom-joe six-pack Sarah in charge makes me cringe. As for testing the new president... Are you aware of the fact that Russia is getting very cozy with Chavez in Venezuela? "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 27, 2008 11:42 AM:
" Yes I am very aware that Russia is getting cozy with Chavez in Venezuela. Perhaps when Obama is elected he can sit down and have coffe and talk with Chavez, Ahmadinejad and Putin's boy Medvedev and solve this whole problem. Of course that is after he re-distributes the wealth. "
BCR wrote on Oct 27, 2008 12:38 PM:
" Our NOT talking to other world leaders, or better yet, only talking to those that AGREE with us, is what has gotten us into the foreign relations mess we're now in. Utter refusal to meet with these leaders, and present our side of the argument only makes the situation worse. Before McCain and his blind supporters take such a stubborn stance, they should spend time in foreign countries like I have and see what the rest of the world REALLY thinks of us, and our ignorant, warmongering overbearing, and non-communicative policies.
As for "redistribution of wealth", where do you think federal funds come from now? The tooth fairy? Do you enjoy Beaver Lake? That nice dam was built with federal money. Taxes that were collected, and "redistributed". Socialism at work. The Freeways you drive on were built with socialistic re-distributed funds. The unemployment check your getting was paid by re-distributed socialistic funds.
You should have stayed awake in Civics class. "
As for "redistribution of wealth", where do you think federal funds come from now? The tooth fairy? Do you enjoy Beaver Lake? That nice dam was built with federal money. Taxes that were collected, and "redistributed". Socialism at work. The Freeways you drive on were built with socialistic re-distributed funds. The unemployment check your getting was paid by re-distributed socialistic funds.
You should have stayed awake in Civics class. "
cybertech wrote on Oct 27, 2008 1:21 PM:
" Why is it that some people actually think that we have not sat down and talked with leader of other nations, even the ones that we dont get along with???? Where do they get that we havent even tried to??? Why do they think that we have not made our concerns known at the U.N.? LOL
Do you really think that people like Akmadenijad (sp?), Chavez, and bullies like them can be bargained with?? Or that we havent even tried?? LOL
Why do people think that a congress that consist of any majority part could ever get anything meaningful accomplished much less even be considered Bipartisan???
My feeling is that Democracy has become broken in an extreme way. Why do both parties not nominate at least two of their respective parties to run in presidential elections to give we the people more of a choice???
Just some of the many things that weigh heavily on my mind these days.
One thing though that you may want to think about is will our next president, whomever that may be, end up being little more than a puppet for congress, or will they be an actual leader for the people??? Think about that before you cast your vote. "
Do you really think that people like Akmadenijad (sp?), Chavez, and bullies like them can be bargained with?? Or that we havent even tried?? LOL
Why do people think that a congress that consist of any majority part could ever get anything meaningful accomplished much less even be considered Bipartisan???
My feeling is that Democracy has become broken in an extreme way. Why do both parties not nominate at least two of their respective parties to run in presidential elections to give we the people more of a choice???
Just some of the many things that weigh heavily on my mind these days.
One thing though that you may want to think about is will our next president, whomever that may be, end up being little more than a puppet for congress, or will they be an actual leader for the people??? Think about that before you cast your vote. "
apronstrings wrote on Oct 27, 2008 1:34 PM:
" Please tell me that someone out there understands the role of a president! The number one job description is Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces. Can there be any question as to who is qualified for this position? McCain has served and sacrificed greatly for this great country! He is proud of his country! My own son is serving now and we are proud of him! We want a leader who understands the duties of a soldier and the risks as well as the importance of a strong military. I am not voting for Mr. Congeniality or Sir Eloquence! "
BCR wrote on Oct 27, 2008 1:51 PM:
" The problem in the past is that our leaders, or "the leader" has always refused to meet without "pre-conditions" being met. When you refuse to even talk unless who you're talking with already agrees with you, and is willing to meet your demands, you've pretty much already had the meeting... Why meet? You've pretty much said, do it our way, or take the hi-way.
As to being the commander-in-chief, That is his job. If I were the parent of a child serving in Iraq, and having seen the "farce" used by Cheney, the pentagon, and Bush to justify the war, I'd be wanting someone's hide. My son served in the Navy. There is no pride stronger than seeing your son in uniform. There is no sacrifice higher than defending AMERICAN freedom with your, or your child's life. Sending our children in to fight a civil war in another country under false pretenses is an atrocity, and NOT very Presidential. "
As to being the commander-in-chief, That is his job. If I were the parent of a child serving in Iraq, and having seen the "farce" used by Cheney, the pentagon, and Bush to justify the war, I'd be wanting someone's hide. My son served in the Navy. There is no pride stronger than seeing your son in uniform. There is no sacrifice higher than defending AMERICAN freedom with your, or your child's life. Sending our children in to fight a civil war in another country under false pretenses is an atrocity, and NOT very Presidential. "
apronstrings wrote on Oct 27, 2008 2:40 PM:
" How do you suppose that we were not directly affected in this "civil war"? It smells much like the actions taken by the US to engage in the war in Europe after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. When our citizens are threatened on our soil (also on 9/11) because of a dangerous threat, we engage! Japan bombed us and we countered and then entered the war against Hitler. The group that bombed the twin towers was only a part of the bigger threat! Yes, there are many others and it is up to our Commander to choose our battles. I am not a military expert and I would guess, niether are you. But I know someone who is and that's who I want as my leader! A military hero! A man who understands war and peace. A man who did not and will not surrender under pressure! He was tortured and would not give in. Give me a leader who has fought the hardest battle of the soul and won over someone who makes promises at the cost of my liberties!
Obama's promises sound too good to be true, because they are. If you want to redistribute your wealth, then give to your favorite charity, help the poor and needy and defend the rights of the defenseless, but do not force someone else to do it. We hold certain inaliable rights under our constitution and do not be decieved; these are exactly what is at stake. "
Obama's promises sound too good to be true, because they are. If you want to redistribute your wealth, then give to your favorite charity, help the poor and needy and defend the rights of the defenseless, but do not force someone else to do it. We hold certain inaliable rights under our constitution and do not be decieved; these are exactly what is at stake. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 27, 2008 4:10 PM:
" apron has stated a vaild point that does seperate one from the other. One is a hero and the other will not sulute our flag. I am ex military and to think we will have a Commander & Chief that will not salute is gut wrenching to me. But, I do know that is he does win and lets face he, Obama is not going to carry Arkansas but he will most likely win, those that I served with will smartly salute him and follow orders. Maybe Rossevelt and Churchill should have sat down with Hitler and talked him out of his one world domination? Too bad Obama wasn't around then, he could have stopped WW II. At least he can talk Iran out of their plans to Nuke Israel. Venezula, Russia and North Korea out of their plans to chock the world for what ever reason that have? All they need is love. Oh, maybe Obama can talk to Mexico and stop the corruption there so their people can stay home and build their own county. Here is what I think. Talk is cheap. Actions speak loader than words. And becareful what you wish for. I guess time will tell? I am planning to pay more taxes in the mean time. "
BCR wrote on Oct 27, 2008 4:56 PM:
" WHEN HAS OBAMA EVER REFUSED TO SALUTE THE AMERICAN FLAG? Kindly state facts, not rumors. I find it very hard to believe that a sworn in United States Senator that has repeatedly stated his love for America would refuse to salute our flag.
As to the notion of Socialism and spreading the wealth, please read my previous post. IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED, OR HAVE EVER PAID ONE DOLLAR IN TAXES, YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN A REDISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. That's how our Federal tax system works.
As for Mr McCain, how will he buy everyone's bad mortgage, bail out the financial system, give everyone health care, give everyone a stimulus check, lower everyone's taxes, give bigger tax breaks to companies, AND continue paying $10 billion a month in Iraq until who knows when WITHOUT raising taxes?
Oh yeah, he's republican. He'll just put it on his American Express Card. "
As to the notion of Socialism and spreading the wealth, please read my previous post. IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED, OR HAVE EVER PAID ONE DOLLAR IN TAXES, YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN A REDISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. That's how our Federal tax system works.
As for Mr McCain, how will he buy everyone's bad mortgage, bail out the financial system, give everyone health care, give everyone a stimulus check, lower everyone's taxes, give bigger tax breaks to companies, AND continue paying $10 billion a month in Iraq until who knows when WITHOUT raising taxes?
Oh yeah, he's republican. He'll just put it on his American Express Card. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 27, 2008 6:25 PM:
" Hey, turn the caps off and know the truth. Take a look for yourself. There are several sites to chose from. You might just google Obama/Flag. But you can go to www.truthorfiction/rumors/o.obama-sulute.htm or mewsbuster.org and look for upirself. He also refused to wear a flag lapel pin. On 10-4-07 he stated "Wearing a flad pin is a substitute fpr true patrotism. I decided I won't wear a flag pin on my chest". Since he has seen it not good for his political ambitions and is seen wearing one from time to time. So dude, you get your facts right and look it up. You are the one spouting things that are not ture. Get it right. I am by no means a McCain fan either if you have read anything what I have written but and he is a politican too. I really don't give a hoot about any of them but the fact is McCain is a hero and Obama will nopt sulute the flag. Have you ever seen him do it? Put his hand over his heart. You seem to be the fan, tell all of us. BCR. I had a little respect for you but I just now found out you don't no beans about much of anything. So, they are both liers and politians. If you think he is going to save you, so be it. He is a politican and that is the worse thing I can call any one. I await your "Sorry". "
ozarks wrote on Oct 27, 2008 7:26 PM:
" I flunked keyboarding. Some sites are:
www.truthorfiction.rumors/o/obama-salute.htm or newsbuster.org or just google Obama Flag. That will give you plenty. "
www.truthorfiction.rumors/o/obama-salute.htm or newsbuster.org or just google Obama Flag. That will give you plenty. "
adabell wrote on Oct 27, 2008 8:41 PM:
" BCR, nothing that you listed that you want such as pork spending and bailouts will stop with Obama. In fact it was McCain who was against pork spending and mostly Republicans against bail outs.
Obama has the redistribution of wealth in interivews and his plan includes not just redistributing the wealth in the US, but doubling our foreign aid.
As a leader in Illinois he voted present 129 times instead of yes or no.
Obama could not pass a security clearance for the FBI, but he would have access to all of our national secrets if Americans are lame enough to elect him.
Obamas inspiration, Rev Wright. His mother a socailist who while married and living in Indonesia refused to even dine with Americans saying they were not her people. Both father and step father were muslims, socialists, and unamerican. "
Obama has the redistribution of wealth in interivews and his plan includes not just redistributing the wealth in the US, but doubling our foreign aid.
As a leader in Illinois he voted present 129 times instead of yes or no.
Obama could not pass a security clearance for the FBI, but he would have access to all of our national secrets if Americans are lame enough to elect him.
Obamas inspiration, Rev Wright. His mother a socailist who while married and living in Indonesia refused to even dine with Americans saying they were not her people. Both father and step father were muslims, socialists, and unamerican. "
adabell wrote on Oct 27, 2008 9:03 PM:
" BCR, you asked about Obama refusing to salute the flag. While campaigning in Iowa with Hillary and Edwards, he was photographed, the others with their hands on their hearts, not Obama, he was just looking around during the pledge.
I have seen the picture as I am sure many others can attest to as well. "
I have seen the picture as I am sure many others can attest to as well. "
gary wrote on Oct 27, 2008 9:14 PM:
" BCR, it seems like you only hear and ksee what you want. Sen Obama himself, at the start of the elections,explained why he dosen't salute the Flag. So for you to say otherwise, puts you in a class of blindness.
Of the several times I saw him,in the primaries where the Pledge was recited, I never saw him place his hand over his heart and say the pledge.
As a disabled vetern, I cannot vote for a person who WILL NOT, not cannot, but Will Not say the pledge of allegence and who continues to "Work with the 57 States!" THINK ABOUT THIS, there are 57 Muslims states in the United Nations.
This is a man who has said he will raise taxes. He has stated that where Civil Rights went wrong was that the wealth wasn't Redistributed.
This is the type of person you want to lead an already corrupt Government?
And for the record, I don't trust McCain either, this is why I'm looking to Vote for other canidates. We, as a country, need to get someone in office that isn't controled by the Democratic or Republician Parties. Also, if you want change lets start voting out the congressmen and women who have been party backers and not backing the intrest of the American People. "
Of the several times I saw him,in the primaries where the Pledge was recited, I never saw him place his hand over his heart and say the pledge.
As a disabled vetern, I cannot vote for a person who WILL NOT, not cannot, but Will Not say the pledge of allegence and who continues to "Work with the 57 States!" THINK ABOUT THIS, there are 57 Muslims states in the United Nations.
This is a man who has said he will raise taxes. He has stated that where Civil Rights went wrong was that the wealth wasn't Redistributed.
This is the type of person you want to lead an already corrupt Government?
And for the record, I don't trust McCain either, this is why I'm looking to Vote for other canidates. We, as a country, need to get someone in office that isn't controled by the Democratic or Republician Parties. Also, if you want change lets start voting out the congressmen and women who have been party backers and not backing the intrest of the American People. "
adabell wrote on Oct 27, 2008 9:27 PM:
" Gary, I would not say that McCain is my number one choice. I respect him but do not agree with everything. After all, he did co sponsor an amnesty program.
Have you checked out the Constitution Party. Chuck Baldwin is running and you can write in his name. You will probably agree with him on many points, I like him myself.
I am sticking with McCain because Obama would be such an insult to everything this country and our founding fathers stands for. They never intended for the government to control so much of our lives. "
Have you checked out the Constitution Party. Chuck Baldwin is running and you can write in his name. You will probably agree with him on many points, I like him myself.
I am sticking with McCain because Obama would be such an insult to everything this country and our founding fathers stands for. They never intended for the government to control so much of our lives. "
cybertech wrote on Oct 28, 2008 3:56 AM:
" My personal thought as to presidential elections is that, and with respect to campaigning, is that each party elect 2 nominees rather than one, to give the people more of a choice. Dont know if that would even work its just an idea I had.
Right now we are in the midst of some pretty bad economic times, with the majority of blame being placed on Bush and his administration, sure they played a part in it, but just a part, however there are some that are plenty naive as to say that its "ALL" Bushes fault and I have to laugh because those of us that still rely on truth and common sense know that not to be true.
Obama is a good oratorm especially so when prompted and knows how to use his voice, I will give him that. He comes off though to much as a salesperson working to get you to buy exactly what you dont want or need.
He has yet to explain just how he will fully fund the billions of dollars in policies that had planned because the "spread the wealth" idea is not going to cover even a small percentage.
Contd............ "
Right now we are in the midst of some pretty bad economic times, with the majority of blame being placed on Bush and his administration, sure they played a part in it, but just a part, however there are some that are plenty naive as to say that its "ALL" Bushes fault and I have to laugh because those of us that still rely on truth and common sense know that not to be true.
Obama is a good oratorm especially so when prompted and knows how to use his voice, I will give him that. He comes off though to much as a salesperson working to get you to buy exactly what you dont want or need.
He has yet to explain just how he will fully fund the billions of dollars in policies that had planned because the "spread the wealth" idea is not going to cover even a small percentage.
Contd............ "
cybertech wrote on Oct 28, 2008 4:06 AM:
" Contd...................
As a Commander In Chief, should he win, he is sadly lacking, and being former military, I am sorry but I would not salute the man after what I have seen and heard him do throughout this election.
His tax plans would be unfair, that is something that I have to agree with Constitutionally and based upon history.
Some say the Iraq war was wrong and unneeded, and I would disagree with them for reasons to long to state here.
There are a great number of things that bother me about Obama, most of all though the policies on his agenda that are socialist in nature.
I dont necessarily agree with what the current tax system has become, but this type of system is far from socialistic, nor is it a "spread the wealth" type system. The money that is paid in, in taxes is, supposed to be anyway, used to help run the government, pay for much needed services, for example Beaver Dam which provides clean hydroelectric for a portion of this region, to help pay for national infrastructure, etc...... thats not a socialist system by any stretch of the imagination.
Contd.............. "
As a Commander In Chief, should he win, he is sadly lacking, and being former military, I am sorry but I would not salute the man after what I have seen and heard him do throughout this election.
His tax plans would be unfair, that is something that I have to agree with Constitutionally and based upon history.
Some say the Iraq war was wrong and unneeded, and I would disagree with them for reasons to long to state here.
There are a great number of things that bother me about Obama, most of all though the policies on his agenda that are socialist in nature.
I dont necessarily agree with what the current tax system has become, but this type of system is far from socialistic, nor is it a "spread the wealth" type system. The money that is paid in, in taxes is, supposed to be anyway, used to help run the government, pay for much needed services, for example Beaver Dam which provides clean hydroelectric for a portion of this region, to help pay for national infrastructure, etc...... thats not a socialist system by any stretch of the imagination.
Contd.............. "
cybertech wrote on Oct 28, 2008 4:13 AM:
" Contd..............
I have been accused of being Republican, lol, and yes I do laugh when accused. Just so you all know I am registered Independent and am no one party affiliate.
In fact to vote based upon party, race, gender, or anything other than the best person for the job is not only ludicrous it is infantile.
My hope is that those that are voting in this election and elections to come are voting because they believe that the person they are voting for is the best person for the job and that they believe so because they have done their own research and not relied solely upon media outlets for their information.
If they are voting because of party affiliation, race, gender, etc.... then I am sorry but shame on them.
Its time to put, mainly party affiliation aside and vote, based on solid information, for the best person for the job.
Just some things to think about. "
I have been accused of being Republican, lol, and yes I do laugh when accused. Just so you all know I am registered Independent and am no one party affiliate.
In fact to vote based upon party, race, gender, or anything other than the best person for the job is not only ludicrous it is infantile.
My hope is that those that are voting in this election and elections to come are voting because they believe that the person they are voting for is the best person for the job and that they believe so because they have done their own research and not relied solely upon media outlets for their information.
If they are voting because of party affiliation, race, gender, etc.... then I am sorry but shame on them.
Its time to put, mainly party affiliation aside and vote, based on solid information, for the best person for the job.
Just some things to think about. "
mec wrote on Oct 28, 2008 6:12 AM:
" Obama resigned from the Socialist Party before running for IL State Senate. Hmm
Why on earth would people vote for such a dubious candidate? How desparate the dems are to get the WH back that they would support this obvious incompetent and dangerous man. Oh but wait, the dems backed the other dangerous and incompetent Clinton. "
Why on earth would people vote for such a dubious candidate? How desparate the dems are to get the WH back that they would support this obvious incompetent and dangerous man. Oh but wait, the dems backed the other dangerous and incompetent Clinton. "
amazed wrote on Oct 28, 2008 6:58 AM:
" Ladies and Gentlemen:
I am NOT ready for 4 more years and possibly 8 more of George W and Dicky... That is exactly what we would have if Johnny gets elected.. "
I am NOT ready for 4 more years and possibly 8 more of George W and Dicky... That is exactly what we would have if Johnny gets elected.. "
Gramps wrote on Oct 28, 2008 8:36 AM:
" I for one can say the last 16 years in this great country has been one nightmare after another. Both Parties has let America and Americans down. Now, we have two individuals who no matter who wins will continue our nightmares. McCain would just continue Bush policies and Obama, well, he wants to redistribute the wealth and says that the Constitution is the problem with this Country. As I see it, we do not have much to chose from this time. I feel that this is the saddest and lowest time in America's history. God Bless America and keep her through this nightmare. "
BCR wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:33 AM:
" It seems to me that many of the McCain support posters on this site should have been involved with his campaign, and not sitting idly by. In none of his speeches, in none of the debates, did I ever hear that Obama was a card-carrying member of the socialist party. Nor did I hear rantings from McCain about Obama's un-American tendencies and outright refusal to salute our flag. Even the pit bull with lipstick didn't pick up on this. No, instead we hear economics via-Joe-the-plumber... in short, they missed their chance to really expose Obama for what you think he is.
As for the spread the wealth idea, McCain could have voted "no" on the bail out plan, but he didn't. What better opportunity was there for him to separate himself from Obama? Instead, he helped add $150 billion in pork.
You Republicans should have gotten your act together a lot sooner. "
As for the spread the wealth idea, McCain could have voted "no" on the bail out plan, but he didn't. What better opportunity was there for him to separate himself from Obama? Instead, he helped add $150 billion in pork.
You Republicans should have gotten your act together a lot sooner. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 28, 2008 11:25 AM:
" BCR: I gave you specific information to look up Obama's feeling about the flag. Did you look it up and is there an I am sorry coming my way? I am not nor have been an Obama or McCain supporter. I have only give information about both and none of it good except McCain is a hero and that is without debate. I have taken a lot of time to watch and research both. Neither is going to stop the flood of illegals. Neither is going to reduce taxes. Both speak out of both sides of their mouths. Both are politians. Both voted for the bailout. Period. I am not a republican or democart. But you sir, do not know your candidate. If you think that Obama talking to world nuts from Venezula, Iran, North Korea and a few other places is going to change their direction, you are very much uninformed about these insane leaders. I am voting for neither but if I felt it was a close race in Arkansas I would vote McCain becasue even though I don't know everything about Obama, I know more than you and everything about him is wrong. Now look up the flag rift and send me an I am sorry and stop with pounding your chest for Obama. "
listenandhear wrote on Oct 28, 2008 12:29 PM:
" To the people who whine about inexperience, what will you say when McSame kicks the bucket from old age and we have the winking moose hunter who is an expert on foreign policy because she can see Russia from Alaska to lead our country? The way I figure, you probably better have a lot of faith in your VP this time around. Age and health are issues. And so is racial intolerance as we saw from the skinheads yesterday. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 28, 2008 12:55 PM:
" It is becasue of people just like you listenandhear that this county is so divided. In an intelligent debate about FACTS, you through is some racial statement that has no support what-so-ever. You think that becasue someone would vote for any one other than Obama are racial? Did you vote Rev. Jackason? I didn't does that make me racial? No! By the way, Obama is 1/2 white I will remind you. As for your discussion about age, how goofy can you be? We have many involved in politics in their 80's and 90's. We have a Chief Justice that is 88. What is your point? As for being bias, I find your statement about Mrs. Palin hate talk. Is it your thought women are not fit to serve as president. You may not like her but to be so childish is hateful. You sound like a 6th grader on the play ground talking about your teacher. I keep saying, this is not a football game. Your vote is the most important civic activity you will partake in. Make your vote. Either way, we are in deep do. How about the auto industry looking for a bailout now too. And let's bailout those that bought homes and found themselves in over their heads with home morgages. I think there should be a big check going to us that have paid our bills and lived within our budgets. Seems we are the ones that would use that money wisely? "
adabell wrote on Oct 28, 2008 2:28 PM:
" BCR, I don't know how you missed it, but McCain did remark many times on the socialist policy of the redistribution of wealth and many radio stations are now playing an interview with Obama from 2001 where he Obama is discussing that the constitution is negative saying what the government cannot do and not what the government has an obligation to do. He talks about the failure to redistribute and change.
So, clean out your ears, you seem to miss a lot.
When Obama was in Illinois he did belong to an organization that actually had socialist in the title. Obama has surrounded himself with extreme leftist since his childhood in Hawaii, this you can get from his own books. "
So, clean out your ears, you seem to miss a lot.
When Obama was in Illinois he did belong to an organization that actually had socialist in the title. Obama has surrounded himself with extreme leftist since his childhood in Hawaii, this you can get from his own books. "
listenandhear wrote on Oct 28, 2008 2:49 PM:
" Oh, Ozarks! You could not be more wrong about me or you interpretation of my comment. First of all my statement was not "racial". I was referring to the two men, one of which was from West Helena, AR that planned the 88 black-person shooting spree that was to end with the assasination of senator Obama. Is this paper the only news you keep up with? I don't need your reminders I am fully aware of Obama's ethniticity. And I think beccause of that factor he is uniquely qualified to give a bit of a broader perspective on some things. McCain has health issues. It's a fact. I don't think it's goofy at all to have concerns about that. Since you're big on apologies- Sorry for the age jab. As for Sarah Palin, I as a WOMAN think she was a disgraceful effort by McCain to win over some of the female vote. Like he thought any one with ovaries would automatically vote to get someone else with ovaries into the White House. It's not my intent to be hateful at all. I just don't see her as the right person for the job, should the need present itself. (God forbid.) At all. Do you? I don't think Americans get a real solution this year. Sad, but true. "
adabell wrote on Oct 28, 2008 3:15 PM:
" As ar as the opinion, because it is an opinion, not a fact, that McCain chose Palin to win the female vote, my opinion is that he chose Palin to win the conservative vote. Palin appeals to the Christain right and is more conservative than McCain, who has often voted with democrats. Then as it happens she has more executive experience then Obama, a junior senator who often does not even vote and voted present 129 times as an illinois legislator, great leadership and deciseness.
But is it were just to win the female vote, because females would vote for someone with ovaries, that is no more disgraceful then to vote for someone to vote for Obama because he is black
95% of blacks and many others like you who claim that is an advantage.
It is no less disgraceful than to choose Biden over Hillary who actually won the popular vote. "
But is it were just to win the female vote, because females would vote for someone with ovaries, that is no more disgraceful then to vote for someone to vote for Obama because he is black
95% of blacks and many others like you who claim that is an advantage.
It is no less disgraceful than to choose Biden over Hillary who actually won the popular vote. "
adabell wrote on Oct 28, 2008 3:43 PM:
" By the way, how much of a disgrace is it that ACORN, the organization where Obama was once a community orananizer, association of community organizers, fraudulently registered voters, some as many as 72 times and paid them with money and cigarettes. Obama's election funds donating to them to get out the vote. "
listenandhear wrote on Oct 28, 2008 3:48 PM:
" I never said I would vote for Obama because he is black. I don't recall saying I was voting for him at all. Presidential nominees pick whomever they want for VP. Obviously. Obama didn't pick my favorite either.
Geez, between you and ozarks, I might as well not have an opinion, since you're so good at making it for me. "
Geez, between you and ozarks, I might as well not have an opinion, since you're so good at making it for me. "
mec wrote on Oct 28, 2008 3:57 PM:
" I'd rather have Palin than Biden thank you!!
Question: What is America 's first line of missile interceptor defense that protects the entire United States ?
Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard.
Question: What is the ONLY National Guard unit on permanent active duty?
Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard
Question: Who is the Commander in Chief of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
Question: What U.S. governor is routinely briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter terrorism?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
Question: What U.S. governor has a higher classified security rating than either candidate of the Democrat Party?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets. She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.
Now you DO know! "
Question: What is America 's first line of missile interceptor defense that protects the entire United States ?
Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard.
Question: What is the ONLY National Guard unit on permanent active duty?
Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard
Question: Who is the Commander in Chief of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
Question: What U.S. governor is routinely briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter terrorism?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
Question: What U.S. governor has a higher classified security rating than either candidate of the Democrat Party?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets. She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.
Now you DO know! "
listenandhear wrote on Oct 28, 2008 4:01 PM:
" By the way adabell, I also didn't say it was a fact that JM picked SP to get female votes. I said "I think" which signifies opinion. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 28, 2008 5:33 PM:
" listen&hear: I respect your right to state your thoughts about who you feel you want to vote for. I have fought 2 wars so you would have that right. I just take offense to name calling. I thinking calling them all politicans is nasty enough. I don't think Obama or McCain or the running mates are bad people. We can disagree resepctfully or debate issues that are inporta to you and me. Seems with the 24 hour news cycle has many repeating what they want to brainwash us with. YOu can be sure FOX supports McCain and CNN, CNBC, ABC, NBC, & CBS support Obama. The bad thing about all the talking heads and playing stump speeches over and over realll is putting a edge between all of us. Then the next thjing we know, we are acting like the children on the news shows. I only wish we had a real selection or a larger selection. The DMC & RNC along with the media have block any independants or 3rd party candidants from even getting a foot hold. If you listen to some others that have been blocked out actually have some good ideas and intelligen. We jusy don't get to have their input unless you find someing on CSPAN. Now, that is exciting. :) Iisten&hear, read the following: "
ozarks wrote on Oct 28, 2008 5:40 PM:
" When I was in the military I had a commander I did not like. Being military did not allow me to express my feelings. One day I asked the commander, If I told you that you wre the worst commander I had ever known, you could through me in the brige, right? He said, I sure could. I went on, But if I only think you are a horrible commander, there is not a thing you could do to me, right? He looked goofy and said, I guess not? So, I told him, Im that case sir, I think you are a horrible commander. The point is, what I think and what I want others to understand is fact no matter if I want to hind it as something I just think. :) "
adabell wrote on Oct 28, 2008 5:47 PM:
" More than a third of Mississippi counties have more registered voters than residents old enough to cast a ballot, according to an Associated Press analysis.
How do you think this happened? "
How do you think this happened? "
adabell wrote on Oct 28, 2008 6:01 PM:
" Obama himself acknowledges that he was drawn to socialists and even Marxists as a college student. He continued to associate with Marxists later in life, even choosing to launch his political career in the living room of a self-described Marxist, William Ayers, in 1995, when Obama was 34.
Dreams From My Father." I chose my friends carefully,
"The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists." "
Dreams From My Father." I chose my friends carefully,
"The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists." "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 28, 2008 6:57 PM:
" Guess those extra people is Mississippi will be voting with Mickey Mouse and the starting line of the Dallas Cowboys that live it Las Vegas. I saw an interview on TV with an ACORN worker who said repeatedly that they told the people they registered to vote for Obama. ACORN is supposed to be non-partial. This lady kept admitting to doing this when asked for 4 or 5 times. "
mec wrote on Oct 28, 2008 8:32 PM:
" Why such a blind eye and ear to the serious problems with Barry Obama?
Socialist and Marxist ties, pro stabbing brains of unborn innocent babies, his disgust for American values, support of anti-american "Turbin" Dick Durbin, his Islamist ties, corrupt money and real estate dealings with Tony Rezko etc, etc. If a republican candidate had only one of these problems the dems would be all over them.
Obama comes from a dirty, corrupt and bankrupt state. Why does anyone want him to rule American? "
Socialist and Marxist ties, pro stabbing brains of unborn innocent babies, his disgust for American values, support of anti-american "Turbin" Dick Durbin, his Islamist ties, corrupt money and real estate dealings with Tony Rezko etc, etc. If a republican candidate had only one of these problems the dems would be all over them.
Obama comes from a dirty, corrupt and bankrupt state. Why does anyone want him to rule American? "
adabell wrote on Oct 28, 2008 8:57 PM:
" mec, you got me there, it really worries me for our country. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 29, 2008 6:35 AM:
" It is because the media is for Obama, that is why you don't hear more of the truth. Why is The LA Times holding on to a video they have showing Obama with some very questionable people, some even affliated with known terrorists? Until people start questioning things for themselves and not believing the far left media, things will only get worse. People are more impressed with listening to what actors have to say about politics than researching and finding the truth. Who cares what Barbara Striestand or Matt Damon or Alex Baldwin have to say. "
sodapop wrote on Oct 29, 2008 9:34 AM:
" Losing sure is tough but just remember it was the people Republicans put into power that got us into this mess both domestically and around the world. Some may try to blame it on the media and Hollywood types but a good look at ones own self may be a better place to start. "
listenandhear wrote on Oct 29, 2008 11:06 AM:
" Ozarks, thank you for your commitment to America and her people.
I did not intend to directly offend anyone with previous posts. Guess I'll try to clean up the sarcasm. I'm sorry. Now what I don't appreciate is presumptuous people twisting my words or stating my opinions for me. If some of the fire breathers on this forum would not jump to conclusions about other people we might have a peaceful chat. My candidate was a gonner long ago and I have not yet fully decided who to vote for. I do really think that we should have confidence in our VPs though. Racial intolorance is still very real in this country no matter how many people try to wish it away. I have heard of 2 assasination plots against Senator Obama already. And John McCain has health problems. I don't think it silly to have concerns about these things. I think it is realistic. "
I did not intend to directly offend anyone with previous posts. Guess I'll try to clean up the sarcasm. I'm sorry. Now what I don't appreciate is presumptuous people twisting my words or stating my opinions for me. If some of the fire breathers on this forum would not jump to conclusions about other people we might have a peaceful chat. My candidate was a gonner long ago and I have not yet fully decided who to vote for. I do really think that we should have confidence in our VPs though. Racial intolorance is still very real in this country no matter how many people try to wish it away. I have heard of 2 assasination plots against Senator Obama already. And John McCain has health problems. I don't think it silly to have concerns about these things. I think it is realistic. "
listenandhear wrote on Oct 29, 2008 11:12 AM:
" Don't mistake me though-I am absolutely NOT advocating any one voting fot the president based ONLY upon VPs. I just think it is an important factor to consider. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 29, 2008 12:17 PM:
" Sodapop, President Bush has made some huge mistakes while in office but the Democrats have controlled both the Senate and the House for the last few years. So it isn't just one branch or person's fault that the country is in the shape it is in. Democrats are on the committees, Barney Frank for one, who should have warned us or done something about the mortgage crisis.
BTW, I am not a die hard Republican. I vote for whoever is the best person for the job or in some cases the lesser of two evils. "
BTW, I am not a die hard Republican. I vote for whoever is the best person for the job or in some cases the lesser of two evils. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 29, 2008 12:18 PM:
" I wish there was someway to keep these comments and revisited them this time next year. It would be interesting to see what has happened. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 29, 2008 12:59 PM:
" brneyed makes the best point. People can finger point all the want, both parties have failed us and it is up to us to let them know, "We are tired has heck and we're not going to take it any more". I apprecate your insight too listen and I agree. I just read about the two crazy thugs in TN and what they would like to do. I must say the president has the best medical care and the best security. You are right, their is still a lot of race problem and that goes both ways when it comes to whites and blacks. Sad but true and I am not sure what if anything could ever be done about that. "
adabell wrote on Oct 29, 2008 2:22 PM:
" The failures of the Bush administration, and I agree that it has been a failure, does not justify media bias. Bush made mistakes. The media bias is intentional. The fraudulent voter registrations by Acorn, who received over 800,000 from the Obama campaign is intentional.
I am by the way a registered democrat, having failed to reregister as an independent. "
I am by the way a registered democrat, having failed to reregister as an independent. "
listenandhear wrote on Oct 29, 2008 3:28 PM:
" I think cyber has a good point and I've often said the same thing about needing broader representation. How can one candidate wholisticly represent a party? Yes I understand the function of primaries. I just kinda think our entire system is broken. And so we get stuck as I've seen many people say picking the lesser of two evils. With no choice that we can truly be behind. And if bi partisan is really what people want and candidates claim to be, then maybe it could be a team of rep pres and dem vp. Or maybe not that exactly, but in some way forcing our leaders to work together instead of pouting and being hard headed so nothing progressive ever gets accomplished.--Oh sorry- I must have slipped into a daydream. "
adabell wrote on Oct 29, 2008 3:50 PM:
" From USA Today
Oct. 28 - A young resident of Gaza, Ibrahim Abu Jayab, is cold calling American voters to vote for Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama, in the final race to the White House on November 4.
How weird is that?
Muslims and arabs all over the world have contributed to Obama's campaign, no matter that it is illegal. Obama has had over twice the funds and advertising then McCain. "
Oct. 28 - A young resident of Gaza, Ibrahim Abu Jayab, is cold calling American voters to vote for Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama, in the final race to the White House on November 4.
How weird is that?
Muslims and arabs all over the world have contributed to Obama's campaign, no matter that it is illegal. Obama has had over twice the funds and advertising then McCain. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 29, 2008 4:40 PM:
" Sodapop, No one is against peace. I just think it is strange that no one questions Obama's ties to the middle east. Why do you think they want him elected? For peace? "
adabell wrote on Oct 29, 2008 5:02 PM:
" Obama has raised campaign funds for Muslims running for elections abroad. He contributed campaign funds to the current president of Kenya, who promised a return to Sharia law. When a reporter for worldnetdaily, Jerome Corsi, went to Kenya to investigate the claim that Obama was born in Kenya and his Keny grandmother testified to being present at his birth there, he was jailed. When released he was told not to return. When court case filed by democrat Philip J Berg, claiming that Obama was born in Kenya was dismissed on the grounds that he was not the correct venue to file the complaint. I don't understand legalese or the law, but it seems according to that specific judge, only a political party can file the claim that Obama does not meet the citizenship requirements to become president. Obama did not submit his birth certificate, what he has on his website was a registration of live birth. Berg claimed that Obama's mother filed it on her return from Kenya to Hawaii. "
BCR wrote on Oct 29, 2008 5:05 PM:
" Ozarks, kindly note copy from the Swamp. www.swamppolitics.com ""This is just so irritating," Obama responded. "This was not the Pledge of Allegiance. This woman was singing the Star Spangled Banner. Now, I was taught by my grandfather that you put your hands over your heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. The Star Spangled Banner, you sing. So that's what I did."
No, I'm not going to say I'm sorry. Do more research... "
No, I'm not going to say I'm sorry. Do more research... "
sodapop wrote on Oct 29, 2008 5:12 PM:
" brneyedgirl821-----I watched the video of the young college student calling citizens in the USA asking them to vote for Obama. I see nothing wrong with someone in one of the most repressed countries in the world wanting peace, do you?
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adabell wrote on Oct 29, 2008 5:14 PM:
" Sodapop, I think it is weird for a foreigner to be campaigning in our election because it would never occur to me to attempt to sway voters abroad in their counties elections. Even if I thought we had a vested interest, I would consider intruding on another countries election. Why do you think it is illegal to accept contribution coming from other countries?
Do you think they have our best interests at heart? Oh right, you think it's peace.
I think it's a conflict of interest.
But Obama has been very supportive to muslims, some of who hate America. "
Do you think they have our best interests at heart? Oh right, you think it's peace.
I think it's a conflict of interest.
But Obama has been very supportive to muslims, some of who hate America. "
BCR wrote on Oct 29, 2008 5:22 PM:
" I just watched a sequence on CNN where a voter in North Carolina received a phone call telling her that due to heavy turnout, he voting day could be changed next week. She was told by the caller that if she was a Republican, her voting day was next Tuesday. If she was a Democrat, her voting day was next Wednesday.
To all of you who served in the military, my hat is off to you. I never served, but my son did. I truly appreciate your service. BUT, if I were you, I'd be mad if I fought in wars to guarantee the right of a free democratic vote to citizens of a foreign country, when we can't give the same guarantee to the citizens here. "
To all of you who served in the military, my hat is off to you. I never served, but my son did. I truly appreciate your service. BUT, if I were you, I'd be mad if I fought in wars to guarantee the right of a free democratic vote to citizens of a foreign country, when we can't give the same guarantee to the citizens here. "
sodapop wrote on Oct 29, 2008 5:53 PM:
" adabell-- People all over the world see Barrack Obama as someone who may be a uniter. I hope and pray they are right. "
BigTex wrote on Oct 29, 2008 6:21 PM:
" Funny BCR but the same thing happened in Illinois during the 2004 election. A number of inner city voters were told to remember to vote on Tuesday Nov. 9th or whatever the Tuesday after election day was that year. The calls were investigated by the DOJ which found that Democratic party operatives were placing the calls in an effort to make it look as though Republicans were engaging in voter fraud and then alerting the news media.
On the subject of voter fraud, I wonder how many of the "voters" illegally registered by BHO's organization ACORN are voting Democratic? "
On the subject of voter fraud, I wonder how many of the "voters" illegally registered by BHO's organization ACORN are voting Democratic? "
adabell wrote on Oct 29, 2008 7:02 PM:
" Sodapop, Biden has caused a stir by saying that foreign governments see Obama as weak and will be testing him.
Whether people all over the world see Obama as a uniter, and you arrived at that conclusion how?
If you have facts to support that conclusion, share.
Obama said he would double foreign aid. That is a food reason for him to be popular abroad, as is his weakness that his own vice-presidential candidate spoke of.
Currently some foreign leaders have called his foreign policy as naive.
It has been McCain who walked across the isle and has worked with the other party, never Obama, whose voting record is the most liberal in the Senate.
So who did you think Obama will unite? "
Whether people all over the world see Obama as a uniter, and you arrived at that conclusion how?
If you have facts to support that conclusion, share.
Obama said he would double foreign aid. That is a food reason for him to be popular abroad, as is his weakness that his own vice-presidential candidate spoke of.
Currently some foreign leaders have called his foreign policy as naive.
It has been McCain who walked across the isle and has worked with the other party, never Obama, whose voting record is the most liberal in the Senate.
So who did you think Obama will unite? "
adabell wrote on Oct 29, 2008 7:17 PM:
" From the editor of the poli gazzette
Britain’s Foreign Minister David Miliband said back in May of this year that Obama’s views on Iran worry him and his European colleagues. They fear, he said back then, that Obama’s plans will jeopardize their efforts to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, thereby altering the balance of power in the region significantly.
president of France. Sarkozy too “is very critical of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama’s positions on Iran,” the report says, fearing that America’s attitude towards Iran in 2009 may cause the Mullahs to continue pursuing nuclear weapons, with no one willing or able to stop them.Sarkozy considers Obama’s views on Iran to be “utterly immature,”
he seems determined to pursue a highly ideological foreign policy which will put him on collision course with Europe. European politicians and columnists understand this, perhaps it is time for Americans who favor improving the Europe-U.S. relationship to pay attention to them. "
Britain’s Foreign Minister David Miliband said back in May of this year that Obama’s views on Iran worry him and his European colleagues. They fear, he said back then, that Obama’s plans will jeopardize their efforts to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, thereby altering the balance of power in the region significantly.
president of France. Sarkozy too “is very critical of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama’s positions on Iran,” the report says, fearing that America’s attitude towards Iran in 2009 may cause the Mullahs to continue pursuing nuclear weapons, with no one willing or able to stop them.Sarkozy considers Obama’s views on Iran to be “utterly immature,”
he seems determined to pursue a highly ideological foreign policy which will put him on collision course with Europe. European politicians and columnists understand this, perhaps it is time for Americans who favor improving the Europe-U.S. relationship to pay attention to them. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 29, 2008 7:53 PM:
" Sodapop, Like I said earlier, "No one is against peace" including me. The terrorists in the Middle East want Obama elected because they want troops out of Iraq and Afganhistan so they can take over again. The terrorist believe that Obama will not have the experience or fortitude to stand up to them. "
sodapop wrote on Oct 29, 2008 8:19 PM:
" brneyedgirl821---How do you know this, are you in contact with these terrorists? All Muslims or Arabians are not of the same political persuasions any more than Christians and Americans are. "
adabell wrote on Oct 29, 2008 8:26 PM:
" Binden, the VP nominee, says they think Obama is weak, that's how.
And from the Arabs themselves:
OBAMA! Inshallah!" – Obama! Allah willing! That slogan, scribbled on walls in Gaza, indicates the hopes that Barack Obama has inspired among Arabs.
While Obama has tried to push his origins into the background, his "Islamic roots" have won him a place in many Arabs' hearts. "
And from the Arabs themselves:
OBAMA! Inshallah!" – Obama! Allah willing! That slogan, scribbled on walls in Gaza, indicates the hopes that Barack Obama has inspired among Arabs.
While Obama has tried to push his origins into the background, his "Islamic roots" have won him a place in many Arabs' hearts. "
sodapop wrote on Oct 29, 2008 8:55 PM:
" If you want to have a president with your political persuasions you should choose a candidate that can run on his or her own merits. Making false accusations about ones religion or patriotism is a sign of desperateness that is not helping anyone. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 29, 2008 9:38 PM:
" saodapop, I didn't say all Muslims or Arabs are terrorists. Please read what I write and don't put your spin on it. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 29, 2008 9:43 PM:
" Sodapop, I was just thinking about what you wrote "I see nothing wrong with someone in one of the most repressed countries in the world wanting peace, do you?"
You're right only instead of p-e-a-c-e they want a large p-i-e-c-e of America. "
You're right only instead of p-e-a-c-e they want a large p-i-e-c-e of America. "
sodapop wrote on Oct 29, 2008 10:11 PM:
" The young student in question is from Palestine, when did they try to take a piece of America? "
adabell wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:09 AM:
" The arabs in the middle east who are praising Obama as one of them are also the same arabs who cheered over 9/11.
What about praising Obama suggests they want peace. They praise Obama because of his Islam heritage. "
What about praising Obama suggests they want peace. They praise Obama because of his Islam heritage. "
adabell wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:16 AM:
" Obama converted to Chrisianity as a young man. I don't doubt this. I have never claimed otherwise.
Islam does not allow for conversion, it is punishable by death. They do however, allow for the pretense of conversion in order to gain power. Since both Barrack and Hussein are muslim names, and both his father and step father were muslims, and they also consider if your father is muslim you are, arabs still think of Obama as having an Islam heritage and have not yet condemned him for converting for whatever reason. This is obvious by their support of him. "
Islam does not allow for conversion, it is punishable by death. They do however, allow for the pretense of conversion in order to gain power. Since both Barrack and Hussein are muslim names, and both his father and step father were muslims, and they also consider if your father is muslim you are, arabs still think of Obama as having an Islam heritage and have not yet condemned him for converting for whatever reason. This is obvious by their support of him. "
adabell wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:22 AM:
" Oh Sodapop, as far as being desparate, our country is desparate or we would not have such an inadequate candidate.
I am a registered democrat, so Obama is my parties candidate. "
I am a registered democrat, so Obama is my parties candidate. "
sodapop wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:42 AM:
" No one can take the American dream away from you but you can give it away. I live in NW Arkansas and think it is one of the best places in the USA to live , work and raise a family. It has changed over the years but many times change is good. I grew up in the Old South when the American dream was most times just a white dream. It was a time when a person could fight and die for their country but couldn’t go to school with the whites or even eat in a white restaurant.
Barrack Obama is a Christian regardless of what you say and I don’t understand why you would try to say otherwise. If he was of a different faith or no faith, it would still not make a difference. This is America and we do not have a state religion and religious test are not part of our political process. "
Barrack Obama is a Christian regardless of what you say and I don’t understand why you would try to say otherwise. If he was of a different faith or no faith, it would still not make a difference. This is America and we do not have a state religion and religious test are not part of our political process. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:24 PM:
" sodapop, I guess we will see but I have a bad feeling if Obama is elected things will be much worse. Just hope that doesn't happen. I really believe that if he is elected and the Democrats have control of House and Senate, we will see our freedoms and income being decreased. He and his campaign staffers and supporters are already taking actions to against anyone who asks him tough questions. There was more investigation on Joe the Plumber than on Obama's dealings with the known terrorist William Ayers. "
sodapop wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:03 PM:
" I too have concern with all the power being concentrated in 1 party, we all saw what the Republicans did with control of congress and the presidency. This is a political discussion but just calling names and making things up about a candidates name and religion is silly. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:18 PM:
" sodapop, Why do you think Obama will not answer tough questions or give specifics about his dealings with questionable people? There was a lawsuit about whether his citizenship would even allow him to be president. Although the lawsuit was thrown out, his birth records (not birth certificate because he supposedly doesn't have one) in Hawaii have been sealed. There are too many unanswered questions. Also what experience does he have to be president? Since you support Obama, I am just curious as to your thoughts on these matters. "
adabell wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:37 PM:
" Obama in his own books was converted to Christianity by Rev Wright. You know, the one that says God d--- America.
I repeat and repeat and repeat, I did not refute this.
Obama's twenty year association and friendship with Wright should give everyone pause regarding his thinking.
It is the muslims who think he's one of them.
He has had many associations with muslims as well.
No one has to make things up about Obama, one could write books about why he is inappropriate to be president. "
I repeat and repeat and repeat, I did not refute this.
Obama's twenty year association and friendship with Wright should give everyone pause regarding his thinking.
It is the muslims who think he's one of them.
He has had many associations with muslims as well.
No one has to make things up about Obama, one could write books about why he is inappropriate to be president. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:32 PM:
" sodapop: Might want to give up. Looks as if Brneyed & adabell is making a good case and winning the debate to me. I have been undecided until reading the debate here and I think they have convenced me to change my vote from Nader to McCain. I will say I have been watching all candidates closely and McCain is showing some fire. Obama seems to be taking a victory lap with Buba. I saw the 30 minite ad. That was a little arrogent and turned me off totally. Keep it up brneyed & adabell. You are making a good case. Soda seems to be losing his carbanation. "
adabell wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:28 PM:
" Thank you Ozarks.
I was surprised to find that Wendy Button, a speech writer for Obama, had the same feelings about the democratic party and is now voting for McCain, although the news media has failed to cover this. It is in the thedailybeast.com
A speechwriter for Obama, Edwards, and Clinton on why she’s voting McCain.
Since I started writing speeches more than ten years ago, I have always believed in the Democratic Party. Not anymore.
it was a privilege to help Michelle Obama with a stump speech, be considered as a speechwriter for the V.P
Democrats fostering ageism with “erratic” and jokes about Depends. Sexism. Racism. Ageism and maybe some Socialism have all made their ugly cameos in election 2008. It’s not inspiring. Perhaps this is why I found the initial mocking of Joe so offensive and I realized an old line applied: “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party; the Democratic Party left me.” "
I was surprised to find that Wendy Button, a speech writer for Obama, had the same feelings about the democratic party and is now voting for McCain, although the news media has failed to cover this. It is in the thedailybeast.com
A speechwriter for Obama, Edwards, and Clinton on why she’s voting McCain.
Since I started writing speeches more than ten years ago, I have always believed in the Democratic Party. Not anymore.
it was a privilege to help Michelle Obama with a stump speech, be considered as a speechwriter for the V.P
Democrats fostering ageism with “erratic” and jokes about Depends. Sexism. Racism. Ageism and maybe some Socialism have all made their ugly cameos in election 2008. It’s not inspiring. Perhaps this is why I found the initial mocking of Joe so offensive and I realized an old line applied: “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party; the Democratic Party left me.” "
BigTex wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:06 PM:
" Al Qaeda prays for an Obama victory:
"O God, humiliate Bush and his party, O Lord of the Worlds, degrade and defy him," Abu Yahya al-Libi said at the end of sermon marking the Muslim feast of Eid al-Fitr, in a video posted on the Internet.
This is from a Reuters story released today. "
"O God, humiliate Bush and his party, O Lord of the Worlds, degrade and defy him," Abu Yahya al-Libi said at the end of sermon marking the Muslim feast of Eid al-Fitr, in a video posted on the Internet.
This is from a Reuters story released today. "
Chigger wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:41 PM:
" Wow, what a litany of paranoia, hate, fear, vomit, attacks, lies, racism, scare tactics, stupidity, unhinged lurching, irrational attempts at logic,and a comical summation of the entire Republican campaign for 2008! And not one real issue anywhere. Awesome! "
ozarks wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:15 PM:
" Great observation Chigger. Just like the Democrats campaign for 2008. That is plain politics 101 for both party's. Do not talk about issues and if you must keep it in general terms. Awesome! Just like I am sure you, we want to hear about illegal immigration, balanced budget, energy, and less taxes. We are just hearing bla, bla, bla. I agree with you. "
adabell wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:59 PM:
" I was listening to bits from the Howard Stern show on another program. He was interviewinng folks in Harlem about the election and it was so funny that even though I take the election seriously, I could not help but laugh my but off.
They were all of course going to vote for Obama. But the interviewer attributed McCains policies to Obama, and even did they approve of Obama's choice in Sarah Palin.
They all agreed with Obama's pro life stance, in his position about staying in Iraq, and they all thought Palin was a good choice.
One of them who agreed with all of the above did not want McCain because he thought McCain was not well educated.
Well, it may not be as funny in the retelling, but you might find it under Howard Stern.
God bless America, and whoever wins, we need it. "
They were all of course going to vote for Obama. But the interviewer attributed McCains policies to Obama, and even did they approve of Obama's choice in Sarah Palin.
They all agreed with Obama's pro life stance, in his position about staying in Iraq, and they all thought Palin was a good choice.
One of them who agreed with all of the above did not want McCain because he thought McCain was not well educated.
Well, it may not be as funny in the retelling, but you might find it under Howard Stern.
God bless America, and whoever wins, we need it. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:09 AM:
" Here is something else to think about when deciding for president. Russia has sold Iran the necessary ingredients to make their nuclear facilities "hot" which means they will have nuclear weapons estimated within the next 6 months. Israel knows that Iran will use the nuclear weapons against them and will most likely strike Iran's nuke facilities in the next 4-5 months and many experts believe before the next US President takes office. There are reports that Iran make launch a strike against Israel to keep this from happening. The latest report on Obama has to do with unreleased tape of him supporting Anti-Israel professor Rashid Khalidi who has ties to the PLO. Who do you want to lead you and your country during a time when nukes may very well be used in the Middle East? Iran will have the capability to launch nukes to Europe also. Russisa is selling weapons to Lybia. Sounds like they are gearing up for something big. I don't think the US should intrust our freedom and safety to a "community organizer" with ties to terrorists. "
BCR wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:10 AM:
" A few of the posters make it sound like Obama's going to wear a turban to his inaugural ball... very paranoid.
First, as far as Iran's nukes, we have them, Russia has them, China, India, France, England, even Pakistan has them. Who doesn't have them? There are rumors that Israel has them, which seeing how tight they are with us, I wouldn't be surprised. Seeing it from Iran's side, if your nation had the fourth largest oil reserves in the world, a commodity that every nation needs, and is willing to take if necessary (war in Iraq), and most of those nations had nukes, wouldn't YOU want some too?
As for Rashid, the association was casual, and Obama has publicly stated that he does not support the PLO or Rashid's programs. McCain, however, was affiliated with Rashid through financial support of one of his organizations.
As for Obama being a Muslim... With 25% of the world's population being of this faith, and growing faster than any other religion, is it smart having a leader who doesn't understand the fundamentals? "
First, as far as Iran's nukes, we have them, Russia has them, China, India, France, England, even Pakistan has them. Who doesn't have them? There are rumors that Israel has them, which seeing how tight they are with us, I wouldn't be surprised. Seeing it from Iran's side, if your nation had the fourth largest oil reserves in the world, a commodity that every nation needs, and is willing to take if necessary (war in Iraq), and most of those nations had nukes, wouldn't YOU want some too?
As for Rashid, the association was casual, and Obama has publicly stated that he does not support the PLO or Rashid's programs. McCain, however, was affiliated with Rashid through financial support of one of his organizations.
As for Obama being a Muslim... With 25% of the world's population being of this faith, and growing faster than any other religion, is it smart having a leader who doesn't understand the fundamentals? "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:17 AM:
" BCR...well looking at it from your point of view perhaps we should give them to Cuba & Venezuala. Hey while we are at it why don't we give them to AlQaeda and the Taliban. We could have an all out nuclear war. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:20 AM:
" BCR....looking at it from your point of view, why don't we give nukes to Cuba and Venezuala? While we are at it give them to AlQaeda and the Taliban. We could have an all out nuclear war. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:21 AM:
" Please excuse the double post. My computer glitched and I thought it hadn't posted. Again my apologies. "
BCR wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:33 AM:
" brneyedgirl, Cuba almost had them courtesy of Russia. Venezuela will soon have them, thanks to Russia. That will be the "test" that will face either president. Believe me, we will see another Cuban Missile crisis again. The Venezuela issue is in response to our placement of "defense sites" in Eastern Europe. We're telling Russia that they're for protection of a problem arising from the middle east. And of course, we would never lie. As for AlQaeda, they just need enough money to buy one of the loose ones on the open market.
Reagan initiated a cold-war back down in his administration. The intent was to disarm the nuclear arsenal world wide. It never happened.
Crazy people shouldn't have nukes. Sane people should be smart enough to know they're not needed. "
Reagan initiated a cold-war back down in his administration. The intent was to disarm the nuclear arsenal world wide. It never happened.
Crazy people shouldn't have nukes. Sane people should be smart enough to know they're not needed. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:41 AM:
" While many have nukes, Iran has already said they would attack Israel. Again, who would you rather have leading this country in a crisis, someone with military experience or a community organizer? "
BCR wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:50 AM:
" One other thought, do you really feel comfortable with the possibility of Palin's finger being on "the button"? "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:20 AM:
" Well considering she is the Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard which includes the 49th Missile Defense Battalion, our first line of missile defense that protects the US, yes, I would much rather have her "finger on the button" than a "community organizer". Oh yes, she has a higher security clearance than Obama, McCain, or Biden. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:32 AM:
" BCR: Did you miss the reports last week that OPEC voted to decrease oil production in order to drive the price of gas back up and further hurt the American economy, namely people like you and me? Thankfully so far it backfired on them. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:38 AM:
" I tell you right now, if Obama wins, Bush and Israel will take out Iran's nuke facilities before he leaves office, (Mark my works). And although Bush has disapointed me in a lot of ways, this stand to protect this county has been first rate. In fact we just smacked Syria. You think him being lameduck is going to stop him? NO! Iran is out to end the world. They are fanatical. There is no killing them with love like Obama thinks. Those nuts have been fighting each other and any body else that think they can step on since recorded history. They have been trying to wipe out the Jews forever dude. All you have done with your babbel is make everyones point for why we do nee McCain now/ Oh, I like Palin. All you know is what CNN tells you. Look a few things up yourself. This is the 21 centry and you have computer. Just becasue she is not the normal Wsahington insider is all the more reason to like her and trust her. But again, you want to point to the VP. McCain is running for president. You think Quail, was better. Did you question that pick? You think Gore was better. You question that Ozones pick? No you didn't. You are shovenst, period. Palin is going to be good for a lot of reasons and she won't be oushing any buttons. Energy, honesty, taxes come to mind. She is very popular in AK. Whybecasuesheisrealandcaresaboutthepeopleandnothepower. "
ozarks wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:47 AM:
" Chaves is no better and if you think for a minutes McCain is going to let that spook have nukes, you have another thing coming. Can't say that for you man Obama. While that fellow is taking and thinking, the nukes will be there and Russia breathing down out necks. Thay all want Obama. They are sure they can get a foothold before he knows what hit him and he can't handle it. They would not even try with McCain and you know that too. Let me tell you, I have lost close friends in the middle east during the 1st war to liberate Kuwait and this one too. What you are stating is nonsense and you don't have a clue and I am calling you on your foreign policy. A line with Obama. Go ahead and remeber I told you to "Becarful what you wish for".I for one am sick of your comments about supporting Russia, Iran, Venezuala and why don'y you throw North Korea in ther too. Just suppor everyone except that county that allows you to slip you babbel about the United States. God Bless America! "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:18 PM:
" Looks like Obama has been making promises he can't deliver. According to an article by reporter Tim Reid,
"Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.......In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq.
"The first hundred days is going to be important, but it's probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference," he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how "hard" it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.
Sounds like after he wins then he will tell people that he can't deliver on his promises. "
"Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.......In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq.
"The first hundred days is going to be important, but it's probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference," he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how "hard" it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.
Sounds like after he wins then he will tell people that he can't deliver on his promises. "
adabell wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:29 PM:
" As commented previously, Wendy Button, one of Obama's speech writers is voting for McCain.
The false statements is one of the reasons.
Even so, the programs that Obama has talked about are not new. They have been tried before in other countries and failed.
In 2001 he is on tape talking about the success and failures of the Civil Rights Movement. According to Obama, failure to redistribute wealth change. Although if you think about it, to some extent it was attempted with affirmative action and welfare programs. Over three decades of reverse discrimination did not get the desired results, neither did the harrassment of agencies like Obama's Acorn, whose goal was to give minorities mortgage loans, goal being that catch up minority home ownership to the same percentage of whites. The result was they got loans they could not pay.
Obama worked with Acorn to give schools huge financial grants, the results was there was no improvement. "
The false statements is one of the reasons.
Even so, the programs that Obama has talked about are not new. They have been tried before in other countries and failed.
In 2001 he is on tape talking about the success and failures of the Civil Rights Movement. According to Obama, failure to redistribute wealth change. Although if you think about it, to some extent it was attempted with affirmative action and welfare programs. Over three decades of reverse discrimination did not get the desired results, neither did the harrassment of agencies like Obama's Acorn, whose goal was to give minorities mortgage loans, goal being that catch up minority home ownership to the same percentage of whites. The result was they got loans they could not pay.
Obama worked with Acorn to give schools huge financial grants, the results was there was no improvement. "
adabell wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:38 PM:
" Neither success nor a good education come without taking personal responsibility, it does not come by taking money away from people who earned it and give it to those who don't in an endeavor to make them successful too.
Although neither Obama or Biden have been generous in their charitable contributions according to their taxes, Obama giving less than one % until he finally gave to Wright's church when the church was involved in the activities to which he was builiding his political career. Obama does not even contribute to his own destitute relatives, like is brother who lives in squalor, and aunt who immigrated from Kenya to Boston and lives in public housing. She will not give an interview until after the election.
McCain and Cindy give 29% to charity. Yet Obama had the audacity to say, "when did McCain decide that selfishness was a virtue." because McCain spoke against redistribution of wealth and socialism. Is that hypocritical or what? "
Although neither Obama or Biden have been generous in their charitable contributions according to their taxes, Obama giving less than one % until he finally gave to Wright's church when the church was involved in the activities to which he was builiding his political career. Obama does not even contribute to his own destitute relatives, like is brother who lives in squalor, and aunt who immigrated from Kenya to Boston and lives in public housing. She will not give an interview until after the election.
McCain and Cindy give 29% to charity. Yet Obama had the audacity to say, "when did McCain decide that selfishness was a virtue." because McCain spoke against redistribution of wealth and socialism. Is that hypocritical or what? "
adabell wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:42 PM:
" Redistribution of is not limited to the US, Obama has made promises to double foreign aid as well as contributions to the UN. "
Gary wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:56 PM:
" If you want a SOCIALIST country, like England, vote for Obama!
This country has been heading that way for years, I personally don't want this country that way.
I'm tired of supporting people who don't want to work or take responsibility for themselves, and I'm tired of helping ILLEGALS! "
This country has been heading that way for years, I personally don't want this country that way.
I'm tired of supporting people who don't want to work or take responsibility for themselves, and I'm tired of helping ILLEGALS! "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Nov 1, 2008 12:30 PM:
" Mainstream media is finally reporting that Obama's budget numbers don't add up. There is no way he can pay for all the programs he says he will enact. This is being reported by CBS (shocker!) in an article "Reality Check: The Costs of Obama's Pledges". If the Obama supporting mainstream media is reporting this then it is probably even worse than what they are reporting. People need to wake up before it is too late. We already have trillons of dollars of debt and he wants to add more? Your tax dollars at work!! "
adabell wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:09 PM:
" So true, browneyes, not to mention that he has received illegal funds from overseas, mickey mouse, etc, and the Obama campaign, according to recent testimony has given his donation list to Acorn, so they have a list to ask for money for their register to vote campaign, and are registering fraudulently. One man registered 72 times testifying the ACORN paid them with cigarettes. They have focused on homeless people, and the judge ruled that is alright for them to use a park bench as their address, but many dead people are also registered.
The shock is this has been going on, and Obama zealots ignore the facts. "
The shock is this has been going on, and Obama zealots ignore the facts. "
ozarks wrote on Nov 1, 2008 4:47 PM:
" ada & brn have done the research. I was ready to vote Nader in protest but I will give McCain my vote. So, 3 reasons I have changed my mind, your discussion, McCain is a hero and I do like Palin because she is not an insider. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:21 PM:
" Ozarks, I am glad you changed your mind. There is so many unknowns about Obama and no one is holding him accountable. In fact, those who ask tough questions are investigated, made fun of, and treated terribly. Just look at what they did to Joe the Plumber and to Sarah Palin's family. "
adabell wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:04 PM:
" Great Ozarks, the latest Obama news is about his aunt from Kenya who came to visit Obama 8 or 9 years ago and other family on the east coast. She remains in Boston in public housing, which means on tax payers money, even though a judge ordered her to leave. She donated money, only $260 to Obama's campaign although it is illegal for non citizens to donate, and she is living on the taxpayers. It is interesting that his aunt is an illegal alien from Kenya.
What will be even more interesting, since she has been ordered by a judge to leave, will be what if anything Obama does if he becomes president, if exceptions will be made for his relatives.
And though Obama talks about the selfishness of those against redistribution of wealth, she has to live in public housing, helped with tax money, but not Obama's personal income, even though he's got the bucks. "
What will be even more interesting, since she has been ordered by a judge to leave, will be what if anything Obama does if he becomes president, if exceptions will be made for his relatives.
And though Obama talks about the selfishness of those against redistribution of wealth, she has to live in public housing, helped with tax money, but not Obama's personal income, even though he's got the bucks. "
adabell wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:07 PM:
" What Joe, the plumber said that made me laugh, was that he wished they did as good of an investigation of Obama.
I agree what they did to Sarah's family is disgraceful.
The things they released about her daughter was no one elses business and had nothing to do with the tea in China. "
I agree what they did to Sarah's family is disgraceful.
The things they released about her daughter was no one elses business and had nothing to do with the tea in China. "
adabell wrote on Nov 2, 2008 10:50 PM:
" The Republican Majority Campaign is prepared to take legal action to require that Barack Obama produce a valid birth certificate to prove that he is a "natural born citizen" as required by the U.S. Constitution to be President.
Courts in Hawaii , a state controlled by liberal Democrats, have denied the public access to Obama's birth records by finding that the American people do not have "a tangible interest" in Obama's birth records. In addition, Barack Obama and his lawyers have stopped the release of his records at Columbia University , Occidental College, and Harvard Law School, all of which should include his birth information. "
Courts in Hawaii , a state controlled by liberal Democrats, have denied the public access to Obama's birth records by finding that the American people do not have "a tangible interest" in Obama's birth records. In addition, Barack Obama and his lawyers have stopped the release of his records at Columbia University , Occidental College, and Harvard Law School, all of which should include his birth information. "
mec wrote on Nov 3, 2008 7:10 AM:
" The Koran says a muslim can enter contracts with infidel anytime to get what Islam and Allah want. The contract is not looked upon as valid anyway because it is with infidels.
So let's see, BHO can claim to be a Christian because it is not valid in the eyes of Islam. He can claim anything to indidels. "
So let's see, BHO can claim to be a Christian because it is not valid in the eyes of Islam. He can claim anything to indidels. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Nov 3, 2008 9:03 AM:
" There was a report last night on TV where they played a radio interview with Obama saying that under his plan our electric bills will skyrocket. It was in his own words and his own voice. He made the statement in San Fransisco earlier this year. I for one can't afford for my electric bill to skyrocket. Can you? If not then you shouldn't vote for Obama. If you do then you have no one to blame but yourself for your higher electric bill. "
mec wrote on Nov 3, 2008 9:18 AM:
" brneyedgirl821
The libs in this country have ALL the information needed to discredit BHO as a presidential candidate but they choose to not pay any attention to the warnings. What is more frightening is the media,the weathy and the politicians who actually defend him for the office. The dems buy their power. They pay big bucks to woo the LIVS and and the pathetic blind-to-fact and they follow in lock-step with them. Lock-step, such an appropriate term for what it sounds like we will be living with after 11-4-08 "
The libs in this country have ALL the information needed to discredit BHO as a presidential candidate but they choose to not pay any attention to the warnings. What is more frightening is the media,the weathy and the politicians who actually defend him for the office. The dems buy their power. They pay big bucks to woo the LIVS and and the pathetic blind-to-fact and they follow in lock-step with them. Lock-step, such an appropriate term for what it sounds like we will be living with after 11-4-08 "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Nov 3, 2008 12:34 PM:
" We will also have less freedom of speech. Look at the investigation on Joe the Plumber just because he asked a question Obama did not want to answer. They investigated poor ol' Joe more than they ever have Obama. His campaign also denied any more interviews with the FL station that asked Biden questions he didn't want to answer. Beware people, if Obama is elected, your freedom of speech will be dimenished. You better not say anything against him or you will be investigated like crazy. They have already started doing this and what makes anyone think they will quit if he is elected. People need to pull their heads out of the sand before it is too late. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Nov 3, 2008 12:35 PM:
" Oh yes.....can one of you loyal Democrats tell me just what is the level Obama plans on helping with taxes? First it was $250,000 then $200,000, then $150,000 and last I heard it was $125,000. Good thing the election is almost over. If it went on for much longer they would have it down to $000,000. "
mec wrote on Nov 3, 2008 5:44 PM:
" brneyedgirl821
I am not looking forward to the election results. Either way it turns out, our country will be in serious jeopardy. One will be internally with riots by the BHO radical supporters should he not win and of course, the charges the election was rigged. And should he win,terrorists are just waiting for their chance to hit us again.
Also should he win, internally, racist crackpots like the skinhead from AR, will act out against him and that is something I absolutely reject. I will actually pray for him everyday.
Our country will change tomorrow and I fear for the worst. All because lemming libs wouldn't do their own fact finding. I will enjoy telling all my lemming friends and relatives...I told you so !!! "
I am not looking forward to the election results. Either way it turns out, our country will be in serious jeopardy. One will be internally with riots by the BHO radical supporters should he not win and of course, the charges the election was rigged. And should he win,terrorists are just waiting for their chance to hit us again.
Also should he win, internally, racist crackpots like the skinhead from AR, will act out against him and that is something I absolutely reject. I will actually pray for him everyday.
Our country will change tomorrow and I fear for the worst. All because lemming libs wouldn't do their own fact finding. I will enjoy telling all my lemming friends and relatives...I told you so !!! "
Chigger wrote on Nov 4, 2008 2:40 AM:
" For all who think that Palin is in charge of the military operations of the Alaska National Guard read this:
Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, ...in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, said he and (Governor)Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.
Do a little research before quoting Republican spokesmen trying to pull the wool over your eyes. "
Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, ...in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, said he and (Governor)Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.
Do a little research before quoting Republican spokesmen trying to pull the wool over your eyes. "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Nov 4, 2008 6:44 AM:
" Palin is still Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard and has a higher security clearance than Obama. Obama would not qualify for a security clearance to be a FBI agent. His dealings with Wright, Ayers and others would prevent that. Do you really want a president who couldn't get a national security clearance? "
brneyedgirl821 wrote on Nov 4, 2008 6:46 AM:
" Palin has more executive experience than a "community organizer". Obama has some Senate experience. When he was running for president during most of that time, he did vote in the Senate. He voted "present". He wouldn't stand for anything. "
mec wrote on Nov 4, 2008 6:12 PM:
" Obama is a Chicago and Illinois democrat. They are so crooked they can all touch their toes!!!
Obama wants the nation smoke free, not just the state of Illinois. Chicago is the murder capital of the nation. Jennifer Hudson's family were murdered in the South side of the city. People there don't even call police when they hear gun shots because it's so often. Oh did I mention Chicago has banned guns for years. Start saying goodbye to your guns because he will ban them nationally too.
Obama=Blagoavich, soon to be indicted governor of Illinois=$$$$ to Barry
Obama=Rezko, recently convicted real estate guy who gave money and favors to you know who=$$$$$ to Barry
Obama=ACORN, Oh never mind. No democrat or liberal cares one iota about this dangerous crook. They only want power.
If they get the power, people like me and brneyedgirl821, will be watching very closely and point out the "I told you so" and/or "well you wanted him" etc. It will be fun. "
Obama wants the nation smoke free, not just the state of Illinois. Chicago is the murder capital of the nation. Jennifer Hudson's family were murdered in the South side of the city. People there don't even call police when they hear gun shots because it's so often. Oh did I mention Chicago has banned guns for years. Start saying goodbye to your guns because he will ban them nationally too.
Obama=Blagoavich, soon to be indicted governor of Illinois=$$$$ to Barry
Obama=Rezko, recently convicted real estate guy who gave money and favors to you know who=$$$$$ to Barry
Obama=ACORN, Oh never mind. No democrat or liberal cares one iota about this dangerous crook. They only want power.
If they get the power, people like me and brneyedgirl821, will be watching very closely and point out the "I told you so" and/or "well you wanted him" etc. It will be fun. "
Not already registered?
Robert5000 wrote on Oct 25, 2008 7:47 PM:
Good bye George and Richard. We will miss you both a great deal because of your sound judgment in committing our country to the invasion and very expensive protracted war in Iraq. And thanks so much for also establishing reasonable regulatory oversight of Wall Street and of our mortgage lending and financial system during your 8 year watch.
Sorry Bill and Hillary. Of course we really wanted to have you back again in order to give Bill another shot at finding some more action with interns in the oval office; and we will certainly miss not being able to hear all the details of such encounters.
John, we will always respect you for putting the needs of our country above petty politics in choosing your running mate; but Sarah, unfortunately it looks like we may never get the chance to fulfill our wildest dream: to someday have President Palin lead the free world. "